Portrayal of women: (split) - Page 15

steeljack · 14-11-2006, 02:54

supposedly Marilyn Monroe was a size 16 (UK) 12 (US) when she sang 'Happy birthday Mr President' to JFK , since then manufacturers have changed the dimensions of dress sizes for vanitys sakes

WillowTheWhisp · 14-11-2006, 07:59

Perhaps the fashion industry will eventually see sense when models start dropping dead on the catwalk. Just how far do they think they can push this 'ideal'?

I noticed that somebody in the comments following that news item said 'don't blame the poor girl, it's not her fault that she's thin'. No, it isn't her fault. It's the fault of the fashion industry which says that she will not work unless she loses so much weight that she makes herself ill. That is not her natural shape.

accymel · 14-11-2006, 09:30

I agree with the comments made about dress size manufactures there should be standard measurements, i can go in one shop for jeans & be a 12, next shop a 14 & in cases a 16, plus as i said again they dont take into consideration body frame as my mum used to always wind me up with the fact i have child bearing hips means a lot of pants dont fit proper, usually going a size up to get them over my hips & needing a belt for my waist

When will they realise that there are variations aplenty natuarally body shapes & sizes!! They ban fur trading in the industry so why not promoting 3rd world look is banned - poor people in the 3rd world have not much food & would kill to have the luxuries of that, yet people in western society have it all & abuse it all for the sake of vanity

i dont get it No wonder as we have seen in this thread already the contention it causes for healthy natural human beings of any size & shape.

garinda · 14-11-2006, 09:36

Talking about dress sizes, although they don't do fashion shows they do have dressed models at trade shows, Evans make up sample sizes in sizes 12 and 14, which is a bit strange because they only start selling their ranges from a size 16 and up in their stores.

I know that for a fact because I did some consultancy work for them.

Marilyn Monroe would today be considered an 'outsize', absolutely daft.

WillowTheWhisp · 14-11-2006, 10:41

So Evans are implying that their clothes look better on people slimmer than the ones they are actually made for? That doesn't make sense.

WillowTheWhisp · 14-11-2006, 13:09

I've just looked at this article and the comments - apparently there has been more than one model dropping dead and still people can't seem to see the difference between naturally slim and healthy and this totally unnatural obsession with striving to be nothing more than skin on a stick.

Particularly telling is the interview with Paige Adams-Geller

Quote:

Paige Adams-Geller, a former model..............

"There is barely a celebrity who doesn’t buy into what the fashion world dictates. And they will do anything to become thin.
"I kept wondering why I would see an actress one week and she would look normal, and the next she would look gaunt, and I found out it is all down to crystal meth [which suppresses the appetite] the latest must-have accessory here in LA." She also told me the name of the ‘celebrity stylist’ who is now suddenly so in demand, simply because she also acts as the stars’ drug dealer.
When I asked Paige whether in fact what everyone is telling me is true, that all the models are just naturally skinny, she gave a wry laugh.
"When I became a model at the age of 15 I was slim, I had won Miss California, for goodness’ sake, but the moment I signed with an agent I was told to lose the weight.
"There is no way that a girl over seven and a half stone will get cast on the catwalk. I used to eat one rice cake a day to stay that way. And this meant I never menstruated."
She told me she could guarantee that very few of the girls on the catwalk in London this week will have regular periods, which means they are storing up problems, such as osteoporosis, for later in life.
"I have seen first hand how these girls are treated," she said.
"I would turn up on a shoot and be offered a line of coke; I have even been on shoots where there have been syringes of heroin laid out ready for the models. I always said, no thanks, I prefer to starve myself."

It reminded me of the horror stories my old Geography teacher used to tell of little girls in Japan with tightly bound feet so that they could not grow, as large feet on a woman were regarded as ugly. She brought a pair of tiny silk slippers to show us and they looked like baby shoes but they had belonged to an adult woman. She explained that this was why Japanese women in those days could not walk properly and took tiny shuffling steps because their feet were deformed.

Tealeaf · 14-11-2006, 14:06

Fasinating stuff! I wonder, though if anyone could possibly advise me on the following:

Yesterday evening, I was given by a (female) member of my local pub quiz team, a key ring which also encompasses a lazer light; when the button on the side is pressed, a message is projected on the wall/ceiling, which reads:

NICE T*TS.

My dilema is this: should I keep this for myself, or pass it on to my 17 year old nephew, who has a sense of humour similar to mine but is in a better position to appreciate it?

KIPAX · 14-11-2006, 14:21

Tealeaf I understand your post and what your trying to say..what you mean...however I can't help thinking.....I want one of them keyrings

garinda · 14-11-2006, 16:21

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Fasinating stuff! I wonder, though if anyone could possibly advise me on the following:

Yesterday evening, I was given by a (female) member of my local pub quiz team, a key ring which also encompasses a lazer light; when the button on the side is pressed, a message is projected on the wall/ceiling, which reads:

NICE T*TS.

My dilema is this: should I keep this for myself, or pass it on to my 17 year old nephew, who has a sense of humour similar to mine but is in a better position to appreciate it?

Perhaps she gave it to you so you could distract the other teams, thus improving your chances of winning next week?

garinda · 14-11-2006, 16:44

Friday sees the final of Make me a Supermodel.

Perfect model size Sweedish Marianne, who is quite a nice girl, if a bit bitchy. (Pictured top of the left attachment.)

Versus 'fat' according to the judges, Jen, feisty mum of one from Wigan.(Pictured on the attachment on the right.)

Come on Jen, do Wigan the pie capital of the world, and Lancashire proud. Stick two fingers up to the experts, instead of two fingers down your throat.

WillowTheWhisp · 14-11-2006, 16:51

I hope I can remember to watch this. I really want to see if Jen has been making herself ill to lose weight like they've told her she needs to.

I was interested to read the WHO's opinion of the fashion models.

garinda · 14-11-2006, 16:54

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I hope I can remember to watch this. I really want to see if Jen has been making herself ill to lose weight like they've told her she needs to.

I was interested to read the WHO's opinion of the fashion models.

I saw an interview this week and she said she's not starving herself to please the panel of judges, and if Rachel Hunter, who has been incredibley cruel to her re: her weight, ever comes to Wigan she'll deck her!