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09-03-2009, 00:51
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Re: Pot holes
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Originally Posted by steeljack
just curious ...Does that mean that the Council/County Council also have no obligation to provide street lighting for something they don't have any responsibility for , maybe an extra electric bill every month will wake the residents up ......
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I live on an unadopted road too.
We do have two street lights, but the nice old fashioned ones, not the horrible tall ones that bathe everything in a tantastic orange glow.
They are electric though. We don't have a little man coming round in the evening to light the gas mantles.
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09-03-2009, 08:24
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Re: Pot holes
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Originally Posted by claytonender
I have been in touch with the County Councillor for Accrington West (which is the County council division that Emma Street is in) - who is Doreen Pollitt to ask her to get me an estimate from the Highways department for bringing the road up to a standard for LCC to adopt the road.
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It would be interesting to know how many unadopted roads on streets like that we have in Hyndburn and what the cost to sort them out would be. I think LCC should sort this issue out.
These roads should be sorted by LCC and not by HBC money.
Out of interest who looks after foot paths LCC or HBC?
I think the roads in Hyndburn are very bad at the moment. After reading Graham's reply to my question in another thread I was wondering who's fault it is. Is it LCC's because they are responsible for roads or are we going to blame HBC because they were responsible for them for a while?
Many of our roads appear to have worn out road marking as well. I don't see how they can enforce parking restrictions along Blackburn road, for example, when many of the yellow lines look like they have been removed they are that worn.
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09-03-2009, 08:28
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Re: Pot holes
if the road is unadopted does that mean there is no ground rent to pay to anyone?
i know not all privately owned homes have to pay it, was just curious
i know what i mean in mi head
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09-03-2009, 08:41
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Re: Pot holes
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Originally Posted by flashy
if the road is unadopted does that mean there is no ground rent to pay to anyone?
i know not all privately owned homes have to pay it, was just curious
i know what i mean in mi head
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Ground rent depends if your house is on lease hold or free hold land. If on lease hold you don't own the land the house is on and pay ground rent, usually only a few pounds a year. I think they collect mine every 3 years and it was something like £12 for the 3 years.
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09-03-2009, 08:43
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Re: Pot holes
i knew all that Neil, my sis pays ground rent, i was asking if the land is unadopted then you wont have to pay anything to anyone
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09-03-2009, 08:44
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Re: Pot holes
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if the road is unadopted does that mean there is no ground rent to pay to anyone?
i know not all privately owned homes have to pay it, was just curious
i know what i mean in mi head
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You only pay ground rent on leasehold properties, not freehold, as far as I understand it. I had to pay it in London, where the majority of properties are leasehold, and I don't pay it now.
It does say on the deeds of my house I also own the road as well, but have to allow access across it, just in case I dig it up and build a water feature on the bit I own, I suppose. Though I would have made stepping stones, or have a little boat for my neighbours to get across it.
As for Neil's question about pavements, I think they are H.B.C.'s responsibility, and if they are, they're in as abad, if not worse state than the roads.
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09-03-2009, 08:53
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Re: Pot holes
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Originally Posted by garinda
It does say on the deeds of my house I also own the road as well, but have to allow access across it, just in case I dig it up and build a water feature on the bit I own, I suppose. Though I would have made stepping stones, or have a little boat for my neighbours to get across it.
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So does that mean you are liable for someone being injured due to the poor state of the road in the same way LCC are?
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09-03-2009, 08:57
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Re: Pot holes
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So does that mean you are liable for someone being injured due to the poor state of the road in the same way LCC are?
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I don't know.
I suppose it does, just as you would be liable if a religious knocker slipped on your garden path.
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09-03-2009, 10:01
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Re: Pot holes
When I first got married in the 60s, I lived on Eagle Street, of New Lane, that street was unadopted and we were told then if we wanted to have it adopted it would cost each hose about £400 which was a lot of pennies in those days, think its still unadopted, but we did have a lamp so you could see where you were tripping on the way home from the Bull
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09-03-2009, 10:12
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Re: Pot holes
Problem with Emma Street too, is that it does not go anywhere, and not a main thoroughfare to hinder any flow of traffic, so their case may not be a good one. No benefit for anyone else to warrant spending LCC money on it.
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09-03-2009, 10:21
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Re: Pot holes
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Originally Posted by katex
Problem with Emma Street too, is that it does not go anywhere, and not a main thoroughfare to hinder any flow of traffic, so their case may not be a good one. No benefit for anyone else to warrant spending LCC money on it.
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it does go somewhere it goes to bernies sisters. i shall tell em both kate says ya live nowhere when next i see em.
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09-03-2009, 10:24
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Re: Pot holes
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it does go somewhere it goes to bernies sisters. i shall tell em both kate says ya live nowhere when next i see em.
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You muck stirrer you !
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09-03-2009, 10:28
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Re: Pot holes
When I lived up Belthorn the street was unadopted.
I mixed concrete and filled the holes in my section myself.
There are advantages - cars parked on it can be told to 'get off'.
Now that car parking on terraced streets is a severe problem, being always guaranteed a place near your front door is an asset.
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09-03-2009, 10:30
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Re: Pot holes
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When I lived up Belthorn the street was unadopted.
I mixed concrete and filled the holes in my section myself..
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thats handy to know, will ya do my backyard?
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09-03-2009, 10:34
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Re: Pot holes
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You muck stirrer you !
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Stop giving im the ammo then kate, cuze cashy knows how to use it
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