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15-01-2010, 20:43
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
Graham has talked a lot about CCHQ imposing their own list after January 1st. For example the silly talk of all women shortlists. I think this might be incorrect. As far as I'm aware only constituencies where a sitting Conservative MP stands down after January 1st will be subject to these by-election selection procedures.
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15-01-2010, 21:02
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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For example the silly talk of all women shortlists. I think this might be incorrect.
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You only 'think' it might be incorrect.
Until you know for sure, then it mightn't be 'silly talk'.
Facts are what's needed, not you second guessing, and 'thinking'.
You silly Billy.
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15-01-2010, 21:45
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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You only 'think' it might be incorrect.
Until you know for sure, then it mightn't be 'silly talk'.
Facts are what's needed, not you second guessing, and 'thinking'.
You silly Billy.
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This isn't Encyclopaedia Britannica, more a source of local information and community discussion. Sorry for trying to be helpful.
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15-01-2010, 21:59
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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This isn't Encyclopaedia Britannica, more a source of local information and community discussion. Sorry for trying to be helpful.
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If you merely 'think' something to be incorrect, without knowing one way or the other, it seems silly to second guess what the truth might be, without anymore evidence.
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15-01-2010, 22:08
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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If you merely 'think' something to be incorrect, without knowing one way or the other, it seems silly to second guess what the truth might be, without anymore evidence.
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The evidence is in the links you yourself posted.
David Cameron gives in to all-women candidate shortlists - Times Online
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From January the party will move to a new state of poll alert, under which party headquarters in London will put forward approved lists of candidates from which local parties will select. This will happen in constituencies where MPs announce after January that they are standing down.
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15-01-2010, 22:22
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Er...right, so there is no more new information, and over a week later you've arrived at the conclusion that you 'think' it's incorect that Hyndburn will have an all female list.
Silly, and bizarre.
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15-01-2010, 22:27
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Er...right, so there is no more new information, and over a week later you've arrived at the conclusion that you 'think' it's incorect that Hyndburn will have an all female list.
Silly, and bizarre.
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Just stating what has been missed before. What I have highlighted would suggest that Hyndburn is not applicable. Therefore I think the original idea that Hyndburn could be shortlisted on this basis is incorrect.
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15-01-2010, 22:34
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Therefore I think the original idea that Hyndburn could be shortlisted on this basis is incorrect.
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I think it's always wiser to know something as fact, rather than just 'think' it might be, before opening my mouth.
Otherwise I'd be afraid I'd look silly.
Knowledge is power.
Just 'thinking' something might, or mightn't be, correct or incorrect, isn't.
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15-01-2010, 22:45
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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I think it's always wiser to know something as fact, rather than just 'think' it might be, before opening my mouth.
Otherwise I'd be afraid I'd look silly.
Knowledge is power.
Just 'thinking' something might, or mightn't be, correct or incorrect, isn't.
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Do you agree or disagree with what I quoted and the analysis? I have quoted a newspaper and provided an analysis of an important sentence for our boroughs Conservative candidate selection.
I shall repeat it,
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From January the party will move to a new state of poll alert, under which party headquarters in London will put forward approved lists of candidates from which local parties will select. This will happen in constituencies where MPs announce after January that they are standing down.
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The highlighted section suggests this will not apply to Hyndburn.
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15-01-2010, 23:08
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Do you agree or disagree with what I quoted and the analysis? I have quoted a newspaper and provided an analysis of an important sentence for our boroughs Conservative candidate selection.
I shall repeat it,
The highlighted section suggests this will not apply to Hyndburn.
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Then why not stop dithering about on the 'thinking' fence, and state it as fact?
Of course, if subsequently Hyndburn does have an all women list imposed on them, you'd look even sillier.
If I know something to be true I'll happily state it, and I'm not afraid to say so.
I wouldn't hide behind the get out clause of 'thinking' it to be correct, or incorrect.
Facts are facts, and that's a fact.
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15-01-2010, 23:12
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Then why not stop dithering about on the 'thinking' fence, and state it as fact?
Of course, if subsequently Hyndburn does have an all women list imposed on them, you'd look even sillier.
If I know something to be true I'll happily state it, and I'm not afraid to say so.
I wouldn't hide behind the get out clause of 'thinking' it to be correct, or incorrect.
Facts are facts, and that's a fact.
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No opinion on my postings, other than a pedantic rant. Never questioned Graham's original post for factual content. Oh dear!
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15-01-2010, 23:15
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Just stating what has been missed before.
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Anyone interested enough would have seen it over a week ago, when l graciously gave the link.
If you missed it, no need to thank me, I'm just happy you eventually took it all in.
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15-01-2010, 23:18
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Anyone interested enough would have seen it over a week ago, when l graciously gave the link.
If you missed it, no need to thank me, I'm just happy you eventually took it all in.
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You obviously missed it too considering you did not question Graham's post on it.
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15-01-2010, 23:20
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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No opinion on my postings, other than a pedantic rant. Never questioned Graham's original post for factual content. Oh dear!
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Pedantic?
Congratulations, l presume you've progressed to the next level reading book.
Nor indeed a rant.
You wouldn't survive a rant, trust me.
Just bemusement, that over a week later than everyone else, you now 'think' you know what your party's doing.
Well done you.
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15-01-2010, 23:24
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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You obviously missed it too considering you did not question Graham's post on it.
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Er..no.
I always read something before I post a link.
Since I've no idea of the apparent power struggle going on within your own party, as to who's on the selection list, nothing would suprise me.
I know who my preferred candidate would be, because I like a good laugh.
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