Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I have never known the Tory Party in Hyndburn release a parliamentary short list to the press or anybody else for that matter, why should we its party business, end of

No one is saying otherwise. It's up to your members to fight it out with your national party, to decide who makes it to the short-list.

Though I'm sure the the electorate are all waiting with bated breath, when you eventually agree on your short-list, and the successful candidate can be announced.

'Clayton-le-Moors councillor Janet Storey has been accepted as an approved candidate for the party overall, but is unable to apply for Hyndburn until the process here is opened.'
Delays over Hyndburn Conservatives candidate selection (From Lancashire Telegraph)

I'm sure the approved candidate is chomping at the bit, for the arguments to cease, so the process of canvassing can begin.

This lack of unity is a worry for us, the ordinary Joe Blogs, who are to decide who we want to represent us in Hyndburn.

If I was a member of the local Conservative party I'd be absolutely fuming, when the best chance of a win for years, is being hampered by apparent in-fighting, the local Conservatives versus the national party, and the successful candidate is unable to be out canvassing the people of the constituency, at what could be a very crucial time.

[Neil]

This thread is like being at home listening to my kids argue

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Neil

This thread is like being at home listening to my kids argue

Since the opposition is so poor, please could you increase my allowance Daddy, in compensation?

[garinda]

Originally Posted by andrewb

Yep, pedantic. You're not interested in discussing the issue, not interested in discussing whether you agree or disagree with what I posted. Only interested in pointless replies which serve nothing to the subject but merely try and undermine the poster without actually addressing the issue.

You'd be a good politician. You still haven't managed to come out with an opinion on what I picked up from the newspaper which nobody has yet addressed in the thread.

Very easy to sit on the fence and criticise the spelling of others, the choice of posters words, or simply criticise somebodies ability to think. You don't seem to provide a counter argument or even agreement though. Speaks volumes.

By he way, I have never criticised your spelling, in this or other threads. So it's a bit weak to play the poor victim card.

Though, through humour (whoosh, right over your head), I did disagree with your choice of words, because in my opinion my posts were neither pedantic, or a rant.

My comments were those of amazement, based on the fact that you chose to reignite this thread, bringing no new information, other than you thought you now 'knew' something to be incorrect, gathered from information other people had already understood and digested.

I've never ranted on here, as it would be too much effort, and I'd rather save that effort and energy to spend in more challenging debates, in places other than Accy Web.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by garinda

By he way, I have never criticised your spelling, in this or other threads. So it's a bit weak to play the poor victim card.

Though, through humour (whoosh, right over your head), I did disagree with your choice of words, because in my opinion my posts were neither pedantic, or a rant.

My comments were those of amazement, based on the fact that you chose to reignite this thread, bringing no new information, other than you thought you now 'knew' something to be incorrect, gathered from information other people had already understood and digested.

I've never ranted on here, as it would be too much effort, and I'd rather save that effort and energy to spend in more challenging debates, in places other than Accy Web.

You do criticise other peoples spelling though, as if this makes their argument unworthy. This information, may well have been understood and digested by yourself. You chose to withhold the point rather than correcting those talking about shortlists being imposed within Hyndburn. Which is why I brought it up. Very unlike you to not speak out and correct information.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by andrewb

You do criticise other peoples spelling though

Care to give examples, other than when it's done with humour?

As I did when yerself pointed out a spelling mistake of mine, and made one himself, spelling your name incorrectly. Which was funny.

Though I have started a couple of threads regarding spelling and grammar. Encouraging people not to be afraid to speak their mind on here, regardless of their ability. Some of the best posters we have on Accy Web, at getting their point across, don't give two figs as to spelling or grammar, because it's much more important as to what is actually said, not how it's delivered.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...-how-9900.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...eld-46810.html

Because your arguments are so weak, and you apparently want to wear the poor little victim's hat, that's up to you.

No one is forcing it on you, so on your head be it.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by garinda

Care to give examples, other than when it's done with humour?

As I did when yerself pointed out a spelling mistake of mine, and made one himself, spelling your name incorrectly. Which was funny.

Though I have started a couple of threads regarding spelling and grammar. Encouraging people not to be afraid to speak their mind on here, regardless of their ability. Some of the best posters we have on Accy Web, at getting their point across, don't give two figs as to spelling or grammar, because it's much more important as to what is actually said, not how it's delivered.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...-how-9900.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...eld-46810.html

Because your arguments are so weak, and you apparently want to wear the poor little victim's hat, that's up to you.

No one is forcing it on you, so on your head be it.

Don't be daft. You'd have to try a lot harder to make me feel victimised.

Again, you propose no argument. No agreement, or disagreement on the original post. The only thing worse than a weak argument is a non-existant one.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by andrewb

Don't be daft. You'd have to try a lot harder to make me feel victimised.

Again, you propose no argument. No agreement, or disagreement on the original post. The only thing worse than a weak argument is a non-existant one.

So you couldn't come up with any examples, in which I've criticised your's, or anyone else's spelling, other than when done humerously?

What a suprise.

Poor little you.

I've made my feelings quite clear on the subject of this thread, and not being privy to the power struggle between the local and national Conservative party, and only having evidence from what's been reported in the press, and what Jaysay's posted, I've no idea who'll make the candidate short-list.

I am but a disappointed bystander, unable to start deciding who I'll vote for, because the Conservatives can't agree on a candidate.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by garinda

So you couldn't come up with any examples, in which I've criticised your's, or anyone else's spelling, other than when done humerously?

What a suprise.

Poor little you.

I've made my feelings quite clear on the subject of this thread, and not being privy to the power struggle between the local and national Conservative party, and only having evidence from what's been reported in the press, and what Jaysay's posted, I've no idea who'll make the candidate short-list.

I am but a disappointed bystander, unable to start deciding who I'll vote for, because the Conservatives can't agree on a candidate.

Just a quick question, I was lead to believe you didn't have any political tendency, that being so why then would the Conservatives not being able to select a candidate delay your choice of party to vote for ? Surely a different candidate doesn't mean different policies ?

As I said just a query

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

I am but a disappointed bystander, unable to start deciding who I'll vote for, because the Conservatives can't agree on a candidate.

I respect the idea of those who vote for what they see as the best candidate as a local MP.. but in a Gerneral Election would say this thread means nothing.. very few will be swayed because of a Local argument.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by g jones

Nearly all constituencies have selected and David Cameron said this week they must all be completed by 31 December or face a imposed list to choose from.

Peter Britcliffe through his hat in the ring a long time ago but still no progress? Why not?

I am told that Clayton Councillor Janet Storey is the only local name on the list.

Considering it will take a few weeks for candidates to be given time to meet and canvass the 80 or 90 members is it being left too late?

You can understand the confusion about the problem if, and when, a selection short-list might be imposed here, when it even says this about Hyndburn, on the ConservativeHome website...

'Delaying the selection until this late stage presumably means that the local association will have a shortlist of three imposed upon it under the by-election rules whcih took effect on January 1st.'
ConservativeHome's Seats & Candidates blog: Hyndburn

The right hand doesn't seem to know what the left hand's doing.

It all seems such a terrible mess.

In the meantime other declared candidates, like Graham Jones and Kevin Logan, are out campaiging.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

I respect the idea of those who vote for what they see as the best candidate as a local MP.. but in a Gerneral Election would say this thread means nothing.. very few will be swayed because of a Local argument.

For me, and presumably others, it's all a matter of balance.

Weighing up the pros and cons of the person who'll do best for the constituency, versus the party who'll do the best for the country.

That decison can't be made until all the candidates have been announced.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Just a quick question, I was lead to believe you didn't have any political tendency, that being so why then would the Conservatives not being able to select a candidate delay your choice of party to vote for ? Surely a different candidate doesn't mean different policies ?

As I said just a query

See post 192, as to why it's important to me, and the rest of the electorate.

Personality, and that person's abilities, does come into it.

One of the reasons the seat is so up for grabs is that a well liked M.P., with a good track record, is standing down.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Just a quick question, I was lead to believe you didn't have any political tendency, that being so why then would the Conservatives not being able to select a candidate delay your choice of party to vote for ? Surely a different candidate doesn't mean different policies ?

As I said just a query

Until we have proportional representation, we vote locally for a candidate who represents a national party.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by garinda

See post 192, as to why it's important to me, and the rest of the electorate.

Personality, and that person's abilities, does come into it.

One of the reasons the seat is so up for grabs is that a well liked M.P., with a good track record, is standing down.

Have looked at 192, so what happens when the person who would be best for the constituency, doesn't fit into the party that is best for the Country, and furthermore the issues you state here about Personality & Ability ?