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21-11-2009, 12:08
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Why did they want to close the pits?
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to destroy the N.U.M. is the only realistic answer, given that many of the pits had many decades of coal left in em. people will think or say what they want as always,check out the history theres yer answer.
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21-11-2009, 20:37
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
I think a leak occured not long after and it was also confirmed in autobiographies that it was revenge for 1974. It was all premeditated. Foreign imports piled high in Spring. Deliberate breakdown in relations. Restrictive union legislation brought in just before hand.
It was all uneccessary. Britains pits produced Europe's cheapest coal but the Germans and Poles (which was communist anyway) were subsidising theirs.
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23-11-2009, 20:04
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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I think a leak occured not long after and it was also confirmed in autobiographies that it was revenge for 1974. It was all premeditated. Foreign imports piled high in Spring. Deliberate breakdown in relations. Restrictive union legislation brought in just before hand.
It was all uneccessary. Britains pits produced Europe's cheapest coal but the Germans and Poles (which was communist anyway) were subsidising theirs.
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Yeah....subsidy on Ruhr miners was running at about £60k per head per annum..half if which came from the FDR, the other half from the EEC, aka the British Taxpayer.
My most abiding memory of the 84/85 strike was being on Sheffield railway station just after Christmas of '84, waiting for the London train. The temperature was about 10c below...a couple of hundred people were waiting on the platform and a train was there - but no one was allowed to board - with the exception of one man. There were an awful lot of very cold women and children on that platform, yet Comrade Scargill took advantage of his position and his union friends in the NUR to take a nice, warm seat while everone else had to wait outside.
This country would be a far better place now if we still had some pits...but the simple fact is that it was Scargill who called the strike and Scargill who destroyed the coal industry and the NUM. He was a complete and utter Yorkshire Communist s**t and the only tragedy is that he was not blown up in a coal pit explosion years ago.
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26-11-2009, 17:05
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
I agree, Scargill judgement was seriously flawed. He misjudged the strength of the NUM against Thatcher.
On Topic. I hope the Tories select a local candidate. I think several outsiders are in the frame including some from down south as the Tories have hundreds of spare candidates.
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26-11-2009, 17:11
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
I would think, Graham, that you would be happier if they picked an outsider, surely that helps your chances.
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26-11-2009, 17:50
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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I would think, Graham, that you would be happier if they picked an outsider, surely that helps your chances.
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Unless that local candidate had already stood twice before...unsuccesfully.
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26-11-2009, 21:40
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I want the best for Hyndburn. I believe in socialism but in the end there is no substitute for hard work and a local person will have greater enthusiasm.
I don't think Peter will be selected now. It's too late. His time has gone and HQ look like they have quashed his nomination.
He is very popular in Ossy but he has yet to reach that level of popularity elsewhere.
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02-12-2009, 16:03
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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I want the best for Hyndburn. I believe in socialism but in the end there is no substitute for hard work and a local person will have greater enthusiasm.
I don't think Peter will be selected now. It's too late. His time has gone and HQ look like they have quashed his nomination.
He is very popular in Ossy but he has yet to reach that level of popularity elsewhere.
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The reason they had a swipe at Peter was because he told the selection board that he was only interested in standing as a candidate in Hyndburn, seems they didn't like it
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02-12-2009, 16:05
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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The reason they had a swipe at Peter was because he told the selection board that he was only interested in standing as a candidate in Hyndburn, seems they didn't like it
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sincerly hope they swiped him hard.
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02-12-2009, 16:13
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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The reason they had a swipe at Peter was because he told the selection board that he was only interested in standing as a candidate in Hyndburn, seems they didn't like it
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Well that's just plain daft. I would have thought that was the BEST reason for wanting to stand!!!
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02-12-2009, 16:15
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Well that's just plain daft. I would have thought that was the BEST reason for wanting to stand!!!
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Great minds think alike Gayle, must not be too many great minds on the Tory selection board
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02-12-2009, 17:13
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Coffin Dodger.
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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Great minds think alike Gayle, must not be too many great minds on the Tory selection board
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well what else did ya expect?
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02-12-2009, 21:03
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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The reason they had a swipe at Peter was because he told the selection board that he was only interested in standing as a candidate in Hyndburn, seems they didn't like it
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Instead of the fact they didnt want him full stop and dont think he will win. Either that or they think he is a tiddler in a big pond and not up to it. Do this selection board have a set or is it crawl around under the threat of expulsion sdictated by BLUE H.Q?
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03-12-2009, 01:16
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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I believe in socialism
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...and you find being a member of New Labour satisfys this belief?
It's as near to socialism as the North Pole is to the South.
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03-12-2009, 01:17
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Re: Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament
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...he told the selection board that he was only interested in standing as a candidate in Hyndburn, seems they didn't like it
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Perhaps they didn't know where it was.
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