Potential Conservative Candidate for Parliament

g jones · 21-10-2009, 18:58

Nearly all constituencies have selected and David Cameron said this week they must all be completed by 31 December or face a imposed list to choose from.

Peter Britcliffe through his hat in the ring a long time ago but still no progress? Why not?

I am told that Clayton Councillor Janet Storey is the only local name on the list.

Considering it will take a few weeks for candidates to be given time to meet and canvass the 80 or 90 members is it being left too late?

Eric · 21-10-2009, 19:02

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Originally Posted by g jones

Nearly all constituencies have selected and David Cameron said this week they must all be completed by 31 December or face a imposed list to choose from.

Peter Britcliffe through his hat in the ring a long time ago but still no progress? Why not?

I am told that Clayton Councillor Janet Storey is the only local name on the list.

Considering it will take a few weeks for candidates to be given time to meet and canvass the 80 or 90 members is it being left too late?

"Though his hat"? Does that means he talks threw it?

g jones · 21-10-2009, 22:50

Can anyone confirm if peter Clarke from Harwood is now on the list?

People want a local candidate rather than a carpet bagger regardless of party. If he has well done.

Mancie · 21-10-2009, 23:47

typical.. takes a Labour Cllr to post a threads on the potential Tory Candidate ... the thread for the Labour Candidate has been on for weeks ... secrets, non discloser comes to mind.. and all this from a Tory party that complians about Central Government being secretive.. be aware!

andrewb · 22-10-2009, 08:13

Indeed they need to hurry up and choose a candidate. If it was up to me one would have been chosen several years ago. I hope this thread is started with good intentions.

garinda · 22-10-2009, 17:50

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Originally Posted by g jones

Peter Britcliffe through his hat in the ring a long time ago but still no progress? Why not?

I am told that Clayton Councillor Janet Storey is the only local name on the list.

So many hats are being thrown into the melee, I hope they all manage to get the right hat back afterwards, when they eventually announce who is standing.

g jones · 23-10-2009, 07:51

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Indeed they need to hurry up and choose a candidate. If it was up to me one would have been chosen several years ago. I hope this thread is started with good intentions.

Are you admitting that there are problems in selection Andrew? The delay seems remarkable given it's 5 years since the last candidate was beaten.

David Cameron has said the ones that have not selected will be all women short lists. I can't imagine Peter turning up in a dress but given christmas is 8 weeks away perhaps he should start shopping at Dorothy Perkins LOL!

andrewb · 23-10-2009, 08:33

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Originally Posted by g jones

Are you admitting that there are problems in selection Andrew? The delay seems remarkable given it's 5 years since the last candidate was beaten.

David Cameron has said the ones that have not selected will be all women short lists. I can't imagine Peter turning up in a dress but given christmas is 8 weeks away perhaps he should start shopping at Dorothy Perkins LOL!

Not sure what you mean by 'admitting'. What I said was I'd have rather we had a candidate in place several years ago.

If an all women's shortlist is imposed I think I'll abstain from the selection procedure. I believe in meritocracy. Leaving candidates out of the selection based on their sex and not their ability is completely wrong.

Gayle · 23-10-2009, 08:50

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Originally Posted by g jones

Are you admitting that there are problems in selection Andrew? The delay seems remarkable given it's 5 years since the last candidate was beaten.

And it's been a while since Greg announced he was standing down and Labour haven't got a candidate yet either!

Presumably it's been left to the last minute because you can't choose a candidate until you know when an election is. If a candidate had been chosen five years all sorts of things could have happened which might have soured the choice (who would Labour's choice have been five years ago if Greg had stood down then? - pretty sure it wouldn't be the person chosen now).

I am very keen to see who both candidates are and who pitches up as an independent - you never know the biggest surprises might be there!

Bernard Dawson · 23-10-2009, 08:59

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Originally Posted by Gayle

And it's been a while since Greg announced he was standing down and Labour haven't got a candidate yet either!

Presumably it's been left to the last minute because you can't choose a candidate until you know when an election is. If a candidate had been chosen five years all sorts of things could have happened which might have soured the choice (who would Labour's choice have been five years ago if Greg had stood down then? - pretty sure it wouldn't be the person chosen now).

I am very keen to see who both candidates are and who pitches up as an independent - you never know the biggest surprises might be there!

We had already selected a candidate for the next election, that was Greg. Once Greg decided not to stand at the next election the process started to select another candidate, which is what we are going through now.

Neil · 23-10-2009, 12:38

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Originally Posted by andrewb

If an all women's shortlist is imposed I think I'll abstain from the selection procedure.

I do not like it when I hear about such sexist behaviour as this.

garinda · 23-10-2009, 16:40

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Originally Posted by Neil

I do not like it when I hear about such sexist behaviour as this.

'David Cameron is ready to force local Conservative associations to adopt women candidates for the first time, he made clear yesterday.'

'The Tory leader said that he was prepared to impose all-women shortlists in winnable seats.'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6882426.ece

'THE “nasty party” is getting a facelift. The number of women and gay Tory MPs is set to increase threefold at the general election.'

'David Cameron’s “class of 2010” is also expected to see four times as many members of ethnic minorities taking up seats on the Conservative benches of the Commons under current polling trends.'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6879470.ece

Positive discrimination, based on gender or sexual orientastion, is both counterproductive and patronising. The best person should be selected for the job, regardless of sex, or sexuality.

Perhaps Cllr. Britcliffe will be throwing a ladies hat into the ring now, to secure his selection in Hyndburn.

garinda · 23-10-2009, 17:11

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Originally Posted by garinda

'David Cameron is ready to force local Conservative associations to adopt women candidates for the first time, he made clear yesterday.'

'The Tory leader said that he was prepared to impose all-women shortlists in winnable seats.'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6882426.ece

'THE “nasty party” is getting a facelift. The number of women and gay Tory MPs is set to increase threefold at the general election.'

'David Cameron’s “class of 2010” is also expected to see four times as many members of ethnic minorities taking up seats on the Conservative benches of the Commons under current polling trends.'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6879470.ece

Positive discrimination, based on gender or sexual orientastion, is both counterproductive and patronising. The best person should be selected for the job, regardless of sex, or sexuality.

It seems the all sharing and caring, hug a hoodie, Tory Lite party is turning into an old style, loony left, Old Labour concern.

It'll probably help secure a Conservative nomination if you are a black, one legged, lesbian.

andrewb · 23-10-2009, 18:14

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Originally Posted by Neil

I do not like it when I hear about such sexist behaviour as this.

Why is it sexist? I want to vote for the best candidate whatever sex the individual might be, their sex is of no concern to me. All women shortlists prevent men from standing even if they're the best for the job. That is absolutely wrong and as Garinda says it is insulting to the candidates whom would never know if they were selected on merit or because of their sex.

garinda · 23-10-2009, 19:04

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Originally Posted by andrewb

Why is it sexist? I want to vote for the best candidate whatever sex the individual might be, their sex is of no concern to me. All women shortlists prevent men from standing even if they're the best for the job. That is absolutely wrong and as Garinda says it is insulting to the candidates whom would never know if they were selected on merit or because of their sex.

Will you please stop agreeing with me.

That's twice, in as many days.

I'm beginning to feel a little bit frightened.