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[Margaret Pilkington]

The other story about the criminal antics of the 'travellers' concerns the police officer who was dragged over a mile by a speeding vehicle.
These low life have been given very lenient sentences because they were convicted of Manslaughter rather than murder.
They will still be young men when they are released.
The poor widow has to live all her life without her husband of only four weeks.
They should be executed.

[cashman]

no doubt at at all to me.

[taddy]

Gremlin, I think that you have it in one.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Gremlin

I have read a few articles about this horrendous event and how some people say that the convicted youth was incapable of the crime.
I wonder if another member or members of his community were actually the persons who brutality murdered the lady and got him to move her body and hide it in the graveyard, hoping the judge would be more lenient with a person with learning difficulties.
The youth has now been convicted and sentenced so the jury must be convinced he was the murderer and person responsible for hiding the body.
That's just how I though early on in the days following the arrest.

its possible but some family if they let him take the blame,

[Margaret Pilkington]

If a family member committed this crime and let him carry the can thinking he would either get off(because of his youth/mental issues) then this has badly backfired on them.

The trial was halted because of someone faking a confession....the authorities knew the confession was faked as the person confessing knew none of the salient details of the murder.

He has been convicted by a jury....who had to be satisfied of his guilt 'beyond reasonable doubt'.
Had they had any doubt once the full evidence had been heard, they would have been honour bound to find him 'Not guilty'
This was a unanimous verdict.
We can listen to rumours, we can make any suppositions we like, but we were not there to hear the evidence provided by the prosecution....so we cannot second guess the verdict.

If new evidence comes to light, or if the deed was committed by someone else in the family and their conscience plagues them, then the las will be exonerated.
It is a very poor family that would finger a barely adult member to get away with something like this...a crime with no motive.

[gpick24]

So his own family deliberately set him up?


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[cashman]

no ones sure but quite a few are saying!

[gpick24]

There’s one person who can be sure but he’ll only say “no comment”.
Sounds like a load of crap to me.


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[Margaret Pilkington]

That is what the rumours say, but if that is true than what kind of family are they...and to wear insulting T shirts outside the court.....saying the murderer was still at large.

[taddy]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That is what the rumours say, but if that is true than what kind of family are they,saying the murderer was still at large.

Fear for your family can be strong incentive , they say.

[Margaret Pilkington]

The lad was convicted on evidence of which we have no knowledge.
If jurors had any doubt then they would have brought in a not guilty verdict.
A unanimous verdict and they did not deliberate for very long either.

The earlier trial being abandoned because of a fake confession may have damaged any defence that there might have been....you do not try to fake a confession unless you think that there is a chance of things not going your way.

I don't know whether he did or not...but the due process of law has been followed and he takes the consequences of that

[AccyMad]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That is what the rumours say, but if that is true than what kind of family are they...and to wear insulting T shirts outside the court.....saying the murderer was still at large.

They have now started a petition on Facebook to get him freed

[Margaret Pilkington]

Trial by Facebook is a travesty....and he has been found guilty by a court of law.
A petition will not save him if he did this despicable act, but if new evidence is found (or the real perpetrator gets a fit of conscience...and I won't hold my breath on that one) then the verdict will be reversed...until then he is guilty, because his innocence was disproved.

Yes I know there have been miscarriages of justice in the past, but forensics have become very sophisticated, so unless they feel that this has been corrupted...

He will still be young when he gets out.
Lindsay was robbed of her life and her family will never get over that...ever!

[AccyMad]

Exactly Margaret, those t.shirts & the petition made my blood boil

[taddy]

Originally Posted by AccyMad

Exactly Margaret, those t.shirts & the petition made my blood boil

I will certainly not be signing it. Until the lad stops saying "No Comment" which was no doubt drummed into him before his parents took him to the Police Station,then his fate is in his own hands.