prince charles and camilla??????? - Page 3

yerself · 13-02-2005, 09:19

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Originally Posted by WestEnder

There is nothing in the (unwritten) constitution

If the constitution is unwritten how do we know what's in it ? Is this an excuse for making up the rules as you go along, as did Henry V111 ?

Acrylic-bob · 13-02-2005, 09:31

As I understand it, our "unwritten" constitution is a set of rights and responsibilities enacted in various Acts of Parliament over the course of centuries of governance dating back to Magna Carta. The "unwritten" bit refers to the fact that these rights and responsibilities are not codified into one document, unlike the American Constitution or Bill of Rights.

Thus when questions are asked as to whether Prince Charles marriage might be "un-constitutional", the questioner is refering to the provisions laid down for Rights of Succession in the 18th century "Act of Settlement"

WillowTheWhisp · 13-02-2005, 09:53

I'm pleased to say that the church I am about to toddle off to this morning has no objections to solemnising a marriage between couples where either party has been previously married and divorced. That is not to say that the marriage vows are taken lightly and indeed a couple going through a rough patch would be encouraged to try to work through it and overcome their problems rather than simply run away but having said that it is recognised that there are times when something simply isn't working and that is accepted.

The majority of members are tolerant of others' imperfections but even so we get the odd one who can have a "holier than thou" attitude but that's their personal problem. My late husband used to say of such people that they were too Heavenly minded to be of any Earthly use.

Many of us here are passing judgement on people (Charles, Camilla, Diana) whom we have never met and are never likely to. I have had a couple of letters from Princess Diana but that doesn't give me any right to feel that I knew her. Seeing her TV interview I did feel sorry for her and the impossible situation she found herself in. Nothing will change the fact that she was the mother of William and Harry and that had either of them attained the throne whilst she was still alive she would have been "The Queen Mother" but she is no longer here. Charles is free to marry. His future wife is legally free to marry. It's nobody else's business but theirs. It's probably a pity Charles didn't marry Camilla in the first place.

As for the unwritten constitution, it's a shame we don't have something down on paper, parchment or carved in stone because then there wouldn't be all this kerfuffle about Camilla's right to be queen. If she's married to the king (as Charles will presumably be one day) it would make more sense for her to be queen than otherwise. It's unfortunate that the HRH title was stripped from Diana because despite her divorce from Charles she was still the mother of those princes.

As for physical appearance,. well we're all a mottley bunch anyway aren't we? But then again what one person finds attractive another doesn't. It would be a boring old world otherwise. But just look at all the pointless and often downright stupid levels some people go to with plastic surgery to acheive what they consider to be perfection.

Acrylic-bob · 13-02-2005, 11:03

The Act of Settlement...
http://www.worldfreeinternet.net/par...settlement.htm

The "Unwritten" Constitution...
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk...stitution1.htm

acertun · 13-02-2005, 15:33

I hear that Cammilla will not be wearing the traditional white wedding dress. She has opted for a saddle and bit

acertun · 13-02-2005, 15:36

Doesn't Cammilla remind you of some guy in drag???????

Mik Dickinson · 13-02-2005, 23:05

Well i think that if he wants to marry one of his plol ponies he should be allowed to.However he cannot be king.He could be queen but then again thats another matter

chav1 · 14-02-2005, 00:17

the future could have been so much different if he had only listened to cilla and taken contestant number 3

Acrylic-bob · 14-02-2005, 06:45

Interestingly, Panorama on BBC1 last night speculated on whether HRH can legally be married in a civil ceremony in England. Apparently, the Marriage Act, as amended in 1949, disallows members of the royal family from entering into civil marriages, that is the main reason why Princess Margaret was not allowed to marry Peter Townsend. It is OK in Scotland but not in England.

acertun · 14-02-2005, 13:00

Will all the footmen be feeling like they have been jilted now or will they be side dishes.

pendy · 14-02-2005, 13:03

Princess Margaret could have married Peter Townsend, but she would have had to give up her royal status and her rights (such as they were) to the throne.

To put the record straight, Henry VIII did not marry a divorcee. He was himself divorced. All his wives were single or widowed. He claimed that his first marriage should be annulled because she had been married to his deceased brother (another long time thorn).

Also, isn't Camilla a Catholic? - that would put the kibosh entirely on her becoming Queen, or him becoming King. He could have married her first time round, if he had only made up his mind, but he shilly-shallied because she had "a past". What has she got now? This "romance" has broken two marriages, and affected four children. Forgive me if I don't say "Aaaah". I don't think he should ever be King, not simply because of Camilla, but because he has shown himself singularly unfit for the job, in many ways.

chav1 · 14-02-2005, 21:57

prince charles cant be king for one simple reason

the cost of extra paper making stamps big enough to accomodate his ears would be too much

also would you lik a stamp with that face on it ...?

Mik Dickinson · 14-02-2005, 22:01

Well said Pendy totally agree with you there.Then again i think they may invite the footmen.Not a royalist myself and i think that the whole affair could turn in their faces and cause themselves trouble.

Mik Dickinson · 14-02-2005, 22:03

Chav i do not lick stamps, never have doen.Think about it, if the head is on the front where are you licking?

chav1 · 14-02-2005, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Mik Dickinson

Chav i do not lick stamps, never have doen.Think about it, if the head is on the front where are you licking?

anyone know the alternative name for mule that begins with A ...?

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