Prisoners to get the vote

[katex]

Whoops sorry, just read the second page now and obviously lots of you thought along the same lines as I did.

[garinda]

In toto there are the following the exemptions to voting amongst the adult population:
Aliens (non-British, non-Commonwealth, non-Irish citizens)
Involuntary patients in mental institutions
Members of the House of Lords
Convicted persons sentenced to custody "at Her Majesty's Pleasure"
Persons convicted of corrupt electoral practices

[Less]

Originally Posted by garinda

In toto there are the following the exemptions to voting amongst the adult population:
Aliens (non-British, non-Commonwealth, non-Irish citizens)
Involuntary patients in mental institutions
Members of the House of Lords
Convicted persons sentenced to custody "at Her Majesty's Pleasure"
Persons convicted of corrupt electoral practices

Rindy I think you spelt it wrong in the last line it should read:-

Persons convicted of corrupt erectoral practices!

[garinda]

Lol. I was just about to say but it was cut and pasted!

[katex]

Thanks Garinda .. so could be an argument for patients in mental institutions then as not all completely off their marbles ?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by garinda

little old lady/council tax heroine

What makes someone who refuses to pay Council Tax a heroine? If it was me, or someone like me refusing to pay, you would call me a scrounging ******.

[Basher]

Ridiculous to even contemplate giving prisoners the right to vote but half the liberal, fence sitting, politically correct, pratts that are in power will probably bleat on about it so much that there'll be a change to the law.

Bring back the death penalty, there thats' my right to freedom of speech used!

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by garinda

All rights? What if the little old lady/council tax heroine needed medical treatment?

Should people in prison not have the right to health care, regardless of the severity of their crimes?

They have the right to health care - I said in one of my earlier posts that prisoners have and should continue to get basic rights - i.e. food, bed and I could have added basic health care. What they shouldn't have is freedom and a vote is a freedom of sorts. People should stop confusing the provision of basic human rights with freedom.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Neil

What makes someone who refuses to pay Council Tax a heroine? If it was me, or someone like me refusing to pay, you would call me a scrounging ******.

Without naming names, I was alluding to some of the comments that were posted on here last year, about a particular case.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Gayle

They have the right to health care - I said in one of my earlier posts that prisoners have and should continue to get basic rights - i.e. food, bed and I could have added basic health care. What they shouldn't have is freedom and a vote is a freedom of sorts. People should stop confusing the provision of basic human rights with freedom.

[quoye=Gayle] I'm so against it because I think that if someone has been found guilty of a crime and sent to prison then they should not have any rights other than basic needs, i.e. bed, food, etc.[/quote]


Sorry, I didn't realise that the 'etc.' was in fact the provision of basic health care.

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by garinda

[quoye=Gayle] I'm so against it because I think that if someone has been found guilty of a crime and sent to prison then they should not have any rights other than basic needs, i.e. bed, food, etc.

Sorry, I didn't realise that the 'etc.' was in fact the provision of basic health care.[/quote]

The etc was supposed to include all things that would come under the category heading of basic human rights, for example if a prisoner collapsed with a heart attack I'd expect them to be helped, but if a prisoner asked for a boob job whilst in prison then I'd have to say they shouldn't be allowed it.

Basic rights means anything that is essential to our well being. Being able to vote is a priviledge that we shouldn't allow to be abused.

[garinda]

Bread and water it is then.

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by garinda

Bread and water it is then.

If it were up to me, yes! lol

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Gayle

If it were up to me, yes! lol

Would you be organising trips out on Sundays, so gentle folk could look pityingly down their noses at the poor, sordid wretches?

[Gayle]

No, I'd keep them locked in their cells so that honest, decent citizens never caught sight of them and only allowed out for a brief walk around the yard once a day for exercise.