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Old 09-07-2011, 07:52   #16
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Re: Private Mental Health Hospital in Oswaldtwistle

With an ever growing elderly population, there's going to be an even greater need for more places that accept people with dementia.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:22   #17
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With an ever growing elderly population, there's going to be an even greater need for more places that accept people with dementia.
Very true and we do need more places.

I can understand people concern though at this stage as they dont know that people you would not want on your doorstep would be living in there
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:30   #18
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Very true and we do need more places.

I can understand people concern though at this stage as they dont know that people you would not want on your doorstep would be living in there
I can only speak after visiting White Ash Brook, but primarily for the patients' safety, there is a very high level of security.
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:32   #19
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To me, it doesn't seem the best of places to build this type of care home. In a built up area with no grounds to give any pleasant outlooks for residents. Sure, even patients with dementia, get pleasure out of open grassed areas ?
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:39   #20
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So long as the necessary security precautions are in place I can see a problem, plus it will be better than a piece of waste ground that is there now
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Old 09-07-2011, 08:44   #21
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To me, it doesn't seem the best of places to build this type of care home. In a built up area with no grounds to give any pleasant outlooks for residents. Sure, even patients with dementia, get pleasure out of open grassed areas ?

I quite agree Kate, but how often are these places really set up with the residents benefits at heart? They are usually more geared towards making as much money for the owners as possible. This is why more & more care homes are developing dementia units because they can charge far more per resident than for others with seemingly less complex needs.

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Old 09-07-2011, 08:46   #22
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To me, it doesn't seem the best of places to build this type of care home. In a built up area with no grounds to give any pleasant outlooks for residents. Sure, even patients with dementia, get pleasure out of open grassed areas ?
There must be some outside spaces on the plans. Courtyards perhaps?

Otherwise it wouldn't have much chance of being passed.

People have lived in this area for years. Having a home in a residential part of town seems the right place to me. Also it is easily accessible if visitors are using public transport.

Could be built in more pleasant surroundings, though perhaps not near Whalley.

They recently, and successfully managed to prevent the erection of affordable homes there.

A decision they might live to regret in thirty years, when their children and grandchildren can't afford to live where they grew up.

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Old 09-07-2011, 08:47   #23
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When I read the opening post on this thread, I was a little concerned - thought it might prompt one of those 'they have to live somewhere but not on our doorstep' kind of rants, thank goodness the people who have posted have more sense than that.
I work in a home for people who have severe learning difficulties & can display very challenging behaviours, we are also located near a school in a residential area and have never in the 9 years we have been open had any problems or issues with them or any other neighbours.
We have excellent staff who take care of our residents & accompany them on every activity. when we first opened our manager went across to the school & spoke to the head teacher telling them who we are & what we do, he invited her to speak to the pupils & she answered any questions they had regarding our residents. I think this probably helped as I have never witnessed any of the pupils staring or making derogatory comments about them, they just accept them - even on occasion shoutring to ask how one of them is if they haven't seen them out & about for a while.
If anyone has concerns about this place opening, I'd say ask questions about any worries you may have, I'm sure if they are a reputable company the owners would be happy to alleviate any fears

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Old 09-07-2011, 08:49   #24
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I quite agree Kate, but how often are these places really set up with the residents benefits at heart? They are usually more geared towards making as much money for the owners as possible. This is why more & more care homes are developing dementia units because they can charge far more per resident than for others with seemingly less complex needs.

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True, but at the moment there aren't enough places for people with dementia.

I know someone locally who's currently being cared 19 miles away from their home, and loved ones.
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True, but at the moment there aren't enough places for people with dementia.

I know someone locally who's currently being cared 19 miles away from their home, and loved ones.
A good friend of ours mum, who had dementia, used to live in a lovely home near Sawley Abbey, which is a long way away. I sure she would have loved it if she was in town so she could visit in the evening or whenever she wanted to. Due to the distance she could only get over at weekend.
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Old 09-07-2011, 09:21   #26
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A good friend of ours mum, who had dementia, used to live in a lovely home near Sawley Abbey, which is a long way away. I sure she would have loved it if she was in town so she could visit in the evening or whenever she wanted to. Due to the distance she could only get over at weekend.

Another way of looking at it, I suppose.

Can't get into HBC at all now. Perhaps the plans are on the letter sent out to local residents ?
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When I read the opening post on this thread, I was a little concerned - thought it might prompt one of those 'they have to live somewhere but not on our doorstep' kind of rants, thank goodness the people who have posted have more sense than that.
I work in a home for people who have severe learning difficulties & can display very challenging behaviours, we are also located near a school in a residential area and have never in the 9 years we have been open had any problems or issues with them or any other neighbours.
We have excellent staff who take care of our residents & accompany them on every activity. when we first opened our manager went across to the school & spoke to the head teacher telling them who we are & what we do, he invited her to speak to the pupils & she answered any questions they had regarding our residents. I think this probably helped as I have never witnessed any of the pupils staring or making derogatory comments about them, they just accept them - even on occasion shoutring to ask how one of them is if they haven't seen them out & about for a while.
If anyone has concerns about this place opening, I'd say ask questions about any worries you may have, I'm sure if they are a reputable company the owners would be happy to alleviate any fears
as i walk past this place daily,can endorse what accymad says, never even seen a hint of trouble. dunno who the manager is, but in my view its a well run ship.
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as i walk past this place daily,can endorse what accymad says, never even seen a hint of trouble. dunno who the manager is, but in my view its a well run ship.
Have you booked your bed yet?
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Old 09-07-2011, 10:36   #29
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Its been a while since i've been on here but I felt I needed to post about this.

I have today received a letter from my sons school from a company called Aaban Ltd, stating that they have bought the land across from St Andrews School (James St WMC) and are applying for permission to build a specialist mental health hospital. It will be a 22 bedded unit for people aged 45 and over, although they will accept younger patients. They will be patients who suffer from dementia, other mental health and behavioural difficulties.

Just wondered what others thought of this idea? I don't have a problem with mental health, I know what stigma is attached to it as i'm training to be a nurse, but what worries me is that it is directly across from my sons school.

I can't really type the whole letter as its 2 pages long, but if anyone has any questions and the answer is in the letter I will post it.
just checked out Aaban Ltd at companies house and found that the company was disolved in March this year !!!!
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AABAN LIMITED
59 BALLIOL ROAD
DAVENTRY
ENGLAND
NN11 4RE
Company No. 06966074





Status: Dissolved 01/03/2011
Date of Incorporation: 17/07/2009
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Old 09-07-2011, 12:48   #30
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Whats surprised me is that the font of all knowledge hasn't had a say on this thread, come on Bee your crowns slipping
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