Question for Graham Jones

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

So you have no confidence of winning? And yet you are seriously asking the people of Hyndburn for their vote? And even if you do win, you will then be prepared to ask the ratepayer to fork out more money to pay for HBC/County bye-elections.

Come on, Graham, get real.

you get real T, no-ones that stupid, happens all the time.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

So you have no confidence of winning? And yet you are seriously asking the people of Hyndburn for their vote? And even if you do win, you will then be prepared to ask the ratepayer to fork out more money to pay for HBC/County bye-elections.

Come on, Graham, get real.

There's 9 weeks to go? Labour has varied between 17 points behind and 2. Around 10-11% national is the cut off where 'statistically' it becomes to close to call. Add 2-3% for the candidate and no it is anything but a forgone conclusion.

You have obviously not had the advantage of reading about this in a previous discussion. To avoid costly by elections the way forward is to have it at the next election which has the advantage of a higher turnout. Bare in mind i will not be taking any allowances saving the ratepayer money.

[entwisi]

Graham, Can I ask, are you guaranteeing that you will still live in Peel ward after the election if successful? You seem to be suggesting that you are on here whereas conversations we have had suggested that it could/would be otherwise to me. I think its only fair that you are as open to the members of Peel ward as you claim to be or are you already finding the MP way of 'economy with the truth' a natural position?

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

You have obviously not had the advantage of reading about this in a previous discussion. To avoid costly by elections the way forward is to have it at the next election which has the advantage of a higher turnout. Bare in mind i will not be taking any allowances saving the ratepayer money.

Thinking about I am not really interested in a by election costing money Graham. You know you will be far too busy as a new MP to satisfy your other duties so you should stand down from County/Local as soon as possible. You need to be doing 1 good job, not 3 bad ones.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by entwisi

Graham, Can I ask, are you guaranteeing that you will still live in Peel ward after the election if successful? You seem to be suggesting that you are on here whereas conversations we have had suggested that it could/would be otherwise to me. I think its only fair that you are as open to the members of Peel ward as you claim to be or are you already finding the MP way of 'economy with the truth' a natural position?

As you know temporarily I live opposite you. I have had to remortage Hodder St and we have had to move out due to the scale of renovation required. The house is full of dry rot so work has been delayed with that and the weather. We need an extra bedroom for our new baby daughter. This will be our permanent home.

The other house which my Gran left in her will when she died is debatable. We can't sell it for the price we think it's worth. One option is Clare (sister), Khole (son/builder) and I share it thirds as a refurbished family home because Clare has sold her UK property, she traded it in for a working on a yacht in the Mediterranean and Khole is getting older.

I have been warned there are people who take politics too far but I am prepared to be accessible on Hodder Street.

As you are aware from speaking to my gran she wanted to leave it as a family home and selling it is a bit of a heartbreaker. For a good few years I lived with her and she brought me up.

As you know it has been up for sale for £130k with Duckworths and currently Buy The House for 2 years. All this is public information one way or another and my gran told neighbours her views when she was alive.

Originally Posted by Neil

Thinking about I am not really interested in a by election costing money Graham. You know you will be far too busy as a new MP to satisfy your other duties so you should stand down from County/Local as soon as possible. You need to be doing 1 good job, not 3 bad ones.

2 bad ones put like that, I could not do County Council.

I see this as pros and cons.

Feet on the ground, accountable, keeping the council accountable, experience, information exchange, resident support + experience at the top and with the Council's new regeneration plans for Peel ++, there is also a huge offer of resident help.

Cons eye off the ball, to much on. Neglecting full active role in Council.

Like I have said. I am happy to give up Peel but I am very concerned about Conservative plans for the area as Tories plans such as West Acc are poor, wasteful, costly, upside down. So are the residents and it is Government money so I would want an MP to be involved 'on the ground'.

That goes for the £18million the Government are funding the Council across Hyndburn. Value for money for the tax payer, not 'Tower Block of Commons'.

It has been done before on quite a few occasions. I think the MP at Manchester Withington did 4 years on District recently. Lindsey Hoyle at Chorley did it.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

It has been done before on quite a few occasions. I think the MP at Manchester Withington did 4 years on District recently. Lindsey Hoyle at Chorley did it.

I am sure it been done before.

What if Labour win at the locals and you win your seat in the Commons?

You would not be able to be Leader of HBC and MP at the same time. You could not give both those jobs enough time

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Neil

You would not be able to be Leader of HBC and MP at the same time. You could not give both those jobs enough time

i would question that? Delegation aint difficult.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by cashman

i would question that? Delegation aint difficult.

A constituency MP is a full time job cashy, and why should it be a case of delegation, unless the other Labour councillors are a load of numpties and can't find a leader within their ranks

Many thanks for your answer Graham only a yes or no would have been sufficient

Tealeaf, I wouldn't expect Graham to resign anything before the election, that would signal his total arrogance in respect of the Hyndburn Electorate

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

A constituency MP is a full time job cashy, and why should it be a case of delegation, unless the other Labour councillors are a load of numpties and can't find a leader within their ranks

Well we all know one party that isn't trusted to find it's own numpty, don't we?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

Well we all know one party that isn't trusted to find it's own numpty, don't we?

Well the Tories had the same leader on HBC for 16 years now Less

[cashman]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well the Tories had the same leader on HBC for 16 years now Less

Who has a track record of losing the "Main Race"

[Less]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well the Tories had the same leader on HBC for 16 years now Less

How true, but he hasn't impressed your CCO, or else there wouldn't be all this in fighting now would there?

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Less

How true, but he hasn't impressed your CCO, or else there wouldn't be all this in fighting now would there?

And in turn she ain't impressed one single person here, me thinks that people with experience of their own area and what is needed at election, would count more than prejudice, I've only been involved in elections in this constituency for 47 years probably 15 years longer than she's been on this earth

[Neil]

Originally Posted by jaysay

I've only been involved in elections in this constituency for 47 years probably

At least you have been cured of that madness

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Neil

At least you have been cured of that madness

I've been taking the tablets for years