Question for Graham Jones re Amy Houston - Page 4

JCB · 29-12-2010, 20:33

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates

I note that this thread was originally addressed to Graham Jones. I also not that neither he nor any of his acolytes has responded????????????

I am no expert on how Parliament works , but could Graham Jones' position as a Labour whip restrain him from speaking on certain issues if they are not the official party policy ?

steeljack · 29-12-2010, 21:10

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Originally Posted by JCB

I am no expert on how Parliament works , but could Graham Jones' position as a Labour whip restrain him from speaking on certain issues if they are not the official party policy ?

Thats supposing that no MPs have a conscience and don't know the difference between right and wrong ... are you suggesting that because there has been no comment from Graham Jones (waiting for the word from above) that the Labour party might approve of this mis-use/interpretation of the Human Rights Act . I suppose if they (Labour Leadership) come out and said it was wrong that this guy gots to stay in the UK it could be seen by some that they got it wrong when they rushed this travesty into Law. Any suggestion that this was just an unforseen consequence is a load of tripe .... the Bill was up for disscusion 3 times in each House and also reviewed in committe by "experts" in the Law .
Don't these folks on Parliament discuss stuff like this with the Law Lords before its introduced to see if it will stand up to a challenge.

Barrie Yates · 29-12-2010, 21:24

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Originally Posted by JCB

I am no expert on how Parliament works , but could Graham Jones' position as a Labour whip restrain him from speaking on certain issues if they are not the official party policy ?

I understand what you are saying JCB, but does this mean that the Labour Party supports this travesty of justice

garinda · 29-12-2010, 23:25

As a failed asylum seeker, as well as a criminal, and a killer, he should be deported forthwith.

If he's that good a father, he will of course take his children with him. To care, and pay for their upbringing.

Therefore no one's human rights need be infringed.

jaysay · 30-12-2010, 10:07

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Originally Posted by garinda

As a failed asylum seeker, as well as a criminal, and a killer, he should be deported forthwith.

If he's that good a father, he will of course take his children with him. To care, and pay for their upbringing.

Therefore no one's human rights need be infringed.

The only problem there G is he would have to support his own family not the British tax payer

DaveinGermany · 30-12-2010, 11:14

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Originally Posted by JCB

I am no expert on how Parliament works , but could Graham Jones' position as a Labour whip restrain him from speaking on certain issues if they are not the official party policy ?

That should be immaterial, if he doesn't speak up because of his Political aspirations, he should at least speak up as an individual outside of Politics. I find it somewhat disappointing, he's made no comment whatsoever considering the high praise he's received from so many on here !

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...t=Graham+Jones

From what has been said I thought him to be a true man of the people & at least someone of integrity & honesty as that was the impression given. Sadly it appears that he is just another Politician, in that his concerns are more for his personal standing than the People who got him there ! British Politics at its self centered best !

How very, very, disappointing.

jaysay · 30-12-2010, 11:23

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

That should be immaterial, if he doesn't speak up because of his Political aspirations, he should at least speak up as an individual outside of Politics. I find it somewhat disappointing, he's made no comment whatsoever considering the high praise he's received from so many on here !

From what has been said I thought him to be a true man of the people & at least someone of integrity & honesty as that was the impression given. Sadly it appears that he is just another Politician, in that his concerns are more for him than the People who got him there ! British Politics at its self centered best !

How very, very, disappointing.

Think that's bit OTT dave, I'm nearly sure Graham will be somewhat curtailed in just what he can or can't say, being a whip, if he was still just a backbencher things might be somewhat different

DaveinGermany · 30-12-2010, 11:38

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Think that's bit OTT dave, I'm nearly sure Graham will be somewhat curtailed in just what he can or can't say, being a whip, if he was still just a backbencher things might be somewhat different

I gave him the benefit of the doubt Jay, if you look at the first paragraph

That should be immaterial, if he doesn't speak up because of his Political aspirations, he should at least speak up as an individual outside of Politics. I find it somewhat disappointing, he's made no comment whatsoever considering the high praise he's received from so many on here !

In other issues he's passed comment ! What my point is he's not even commented as Mr.G.Jones one of the community. Yet Frank field has & he's working with the Coalition as their "Poverty czar" So pretty obvious profile in a ruling Government, he's not kept stumm !

Nickelson · 30-12-2010, 16:43

Dave that really is a slippery slope argument as Jaysay states him being Whip might limit to what he can say on such message boards as this. As a MP he will be structinized for everything he does as he is now in the media on a daily basis. I for one don't feel any different to Graham not airing his views on here. His phone and emails are always open if someone would like to ask him a question and he is one of the most transparent men you will meet.

BERNADETTE · 31-12-2010, 00:13

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Originally Posted by Nickelson

Dave that really is a slippery slope argument as Jaysay states him being Whip might limit to what he can say on such message boards as this. As a MP he will be structinized for everything he does as he is now in the media on a daily basis. I for one don't feel any different to Graham not airing his views on here. His phone and emails are always open if someone would like to ask him a question and he is one of the most transparent men you will meet.

Whilst we respect the fact that Graham has to be careful of "airing his views" on message boards such as Accyweb are we not going to think that he thinks it is right for "failed asylum seekers" to be allowed to stay in this country after being found guilty of crimes like this???? What about the rights of the victim and her family???? I'm so sick of reading reports like this and not very many of the people voted in by the electorate voice their opinion. It is wrong and they should say so, irrespective of political persuasion!!!!

g jones · 31-12-2010, 01:15

I met with Amy's grandmother and father a few weeks ago. I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed. It's a disgrace he is allowed to stay. As the family stated, it wasn't an accident.

The Human Rights Act defends freedom of speech, such as ironically the infamous critic John Gaunt's successful appeal to defend his right to call someone on air a Nazi. An appeal he lost in British courts.

There now needs to be revision in my view so cases like this are not repeated.

Wynonie Harris · 31-12-2010, 06:17

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Originally Posted by g jones

I met with Amy's grandmother and father a few weeks ago. I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed. It's a disgrace he is allowed to stay. As the family stated, it wasn't an accident.

The Human Rights Act defends freedom of speech, such as ironically the infamous critic John Gaunt's successful appeal to defend his right to call someone on air a Nazi. An appeal he lost in British courts.

There now needs to be revision in my view so cases like this are not repeated.

Well said, Graham!

walkinman221 · 31-12-2010, 08:52

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Originally Posted by g jones

I met with Amy's grandmother and father a few weeks ago. I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed. It's a disgrace he is allowed to stay. As the family stated, it wasn't an accident.

The Human Rights Act defends freedom of speech, such as ironically the infamous critic John Gaunt's successful appeal to defend his right to call someone on air a Nazi. An appeal he lost in British courts.

There now needs to be revision in my view so cases like this are not repeated.

Well said, and has put straight some of the views aired on you not commenting on this issue, i think everyone would be behind a move to rid us of this scumbag and anymore like him.

cashman · 31-12-2010, 08:59

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Originally Posted by g jones

I met with Amy's grandmother and father a few weeks ago. I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed. It's a disgrace he is allowed to stay. As the family stated, it wasn't an accident.

The Human Rights Act defends freedom of speech, such as ironically the infamous critic John Gaunt's successful appeal to defend his right to call someone on air a Nazi. An appeal he lost in British courts.

There now needs to be revision in my view so cases like this are not repeated.

well said graham, now the hard work starts, its one thats gotta be won IMHO.

BERNADETTE · 31-12-2010, 09:23

Thank you Graham