Question for Graham Jones re Amy Houston - Page 5

jaysay · 31-12-2010, 09:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones

I met with Amy's grandmother and father a few weeks ago. I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed. It's a disgrace he is allowed to stay. As the family stated, it wasn't an accident.

The Human Rights Act defends freedom of speech, such as ironically the infamous critic John Gaunt's successful appeal to defend his right to call someone on air a Nazi. An appeal he lost in British courts.

There now needs to be revision in my view so cases like this are not repeated.

Spot on Graham, just glad you were able to reply

DaveinGermany · 31-12-2010, 12:10

That was all that was required, a comment from someone who is in a position to bring this issue to the fore & can maybe get things done. What is even more important is that you have spoken with the family & shown yourself to be a genuine person, unlike so many other Politicians who just pour out the usual meaningless platitudes.

Graham, thank you, I apologise for the needling but if that is what is required to get a response, then so be it. That being said it just reaffirms what so many have said about you & as such you have shown yourself worthy of those praises & trust enhancing your reputation as a man of the people & his word.

I wish you every success in all you do & may you remain true to your ethics & moral codex. If only we had more with such an attitude & the guts to take up the will of the populace then perhaps the Country would once again be deemed a bastion of democracy.

MargaretR · 31-12-2010, 12:18

This seems apt and on topic

derekgas · 31-12-2010, 13:59

I agree with most that this murderer should be deported, (or hung, drawn and quartered), I also feel that cases like this ARE eventually going to cause problems for some of the general public, I for one would have trouble living in the same street as this animal, and feel that a more unstable person than myself might be tempted to take the law into their own hands! Alas, the law would then be used to its fullest against any such action. I still hold the view that any person migrating to another country should live as the people in said country live, furthermore, if an immigrant here is accepted by an english person of the opposite sex, they should then be treated as the immigrant would in certain situations, in this case, be deported with him simply because she accepted him as her partner (knowing he was already a lawbreaker!).

Barrie Yates · 31-12-2010, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones

I met with Amy's grandmother and father a few weeks ago. I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed. It's a disgrace he is allowed to stay. As the family stated, it wasn't an accident.

The Human Rights Act defends freedom of speech, such as ironically the infamous critic John Gaunt's successful appeal to defend his right to call someone on air a Nazi. An appeal he lost in British courts.

There now needs to be revision in my view so cases like this are not repeated.

Well said Graham.

steeljack · 31-12-2010, 19:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones

I met with Amy's grandmother and father a few weeks ago. I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed. It's a disgrace he is allowed to stay. As the family stated, it wasn't an accident.

The Human Rights Act defends freedom of speech, such as ironically the infamous critic John Gaunt's successful appeal to defend his right to call someone on air a Nazi. An appeal he lost in British courts.

There now needs to be revision in my view so cases like this are not repeated.

So you will be supporting Frank Fields early day motion in the House of Commons for the Govt. to overrule the human rights of foreign crimals convicted in UK courts, and deport them once sentences have been served. ?

Acrylic-bob · 01-01-2011, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones

I'll do what I can to help remove Ibrahim Mohammed.

Which, as an opposition MP, involves doing what, Graham? And what sort of timescale are you looking at?

g jones · 01-01-2011, 21:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by steeljack

So you will be supporting Frank Fields early day motion in the House of Commons for the Govt. to overrule the human rights of foreign crimals convicted in UK courts, and deport them once sentences have been served. ?

When we get back I'll speak with Frank and other colleagues to see what can be done. I am writing to the Prime Minister to ask for clarity on his comments and his intentions.

steeljack · 04-03-2011, 09:57

so it seems 'nowt' is being done to help the Houston family get the justice they deserve

BBC News - Appeal over Lancashire death driver deportation fails

just hope every North East Lancashire MP are holding their heads in shame ... total disgrace, considering Jack Straw was Home Secratary and Secretary of State for Justice and Lord Chancellor, whilst this case was going on. If you can't depend on your local elected leaders/politicans to get justice who can you depend on .

Question for Graham Jones ... why haven't you lobbied all the Local MPs and stood up en block to demand answers during "PMs Question Time" , screw parliamentry procedure ... this needs sorting .
Also Graham , you are not beholden to Labour dinousors like Jack Straw , the voters of Hyndburn didn't elect you to follow the party line , they elected you to represent them .
ok enough said

accyman · 04-03-2011, 10:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by g jones

When we get back I'll speak with Frank and other colleagues to see what can be done. I am writing to the Prime Minister to ask for clarity on his comments and his intentions.

knowing cameron clarity will be murkey at best and intentions will be to pay lip service

until cameron delivers on his prommis to stand up to europe on the human rights laws i wont hold my breath.

this animal and his tart should be slung out on the cheapest flight anywhere as long as they arnt allowed to stay here.

I you commit a crime in america or get a criminal record here in the UK you simply dont get into america these days and we should adapt a similar policy

steeljack · 04-03-2011, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman

knowing cameron clarity will be murkey at best and intentions will be to pay lip service

until cameron delivers on his prommis to stand up to europe on the human rights laws i wont hold my breath.

this animal and his tart should be slung out on the cheapest flight anywhere as long as they arnt allowed to stay here.

I you commit a crime in america or get a criminal record here in the UK you simply dont get into america these days and we should adapt a similar policy

sorry accyman , but people like Cameron deal in concepts not realities , its up to local MPs to do like what Mr Heffernan ,60s teacher at Gt, Harwood Top Council and Rhyddings used to do, bang their heads on the desk to get their attention and make them wake up and sit up and take note , instead of kowtowing to the PC party line.

jaysay · 04-03-2011, 10:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman

knowing cameron clarity will be murkey at best and intentions will be to pay lip service

until cameron delivers on his prommis to stand up to europe on the human rights laws i wont hold my breath.

this animal and his tart should be slung out on the cheapest flight anywhere as long as they arnt allowed to stay here.

I you commit a crime in america or get a criminal record here in the UK you simply dont get into america these days and we should adapt a similar policy

Nothing to do with Cameron and if your on about the Human Rights Act thats was Tony Blair's finest achievement in politics, words from his own mouth backed up by his wife's Bank Manager, The judge said he would not give leave to appeal on this case, but the government ARE looking into this, as was stated last night. But I agree with you about the states, in fact there is quite a lot I like about American Law because if your convicted in the good old US of A the punishment does fit the crime, you very often her the sentence Life without the chance of parole being dished out and even when life sentences aren't given sentences of hundreds of years are meted out, ensuring they never see the light of day, but of course plea bargaining wouldn't work very well in this country as you could never here the term take the needle of the table being used

accyman · 04-03-2011, 11:30

cameron pledged to stand up to the human rights act and has not delivered.

that is whati am refering to not who signed us up to it

blair will burn in hell for that , I want cameron to do as he prommised now thats all

garinda · 04-03-2011, 11:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay

Nothing to do with Cameron and if your on about the Human Rights Act

Cameron pledges bill to restore British freedoms

It's reported that David Cameron has pledged to repeal the Human Rights Act,

28 February 2009

Cameron pledges bill to restore British freedoms | Politics | The Guardian

Sadly yet one more politican, whose pre-election promises turns out to be nothing but empty rhetoric.

steeljack · 04-03-2011, 11:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman

cameron pledged to stand up to the human rights act and has not delivered.

that is whati am refering to not who signed us up to it

blair will burn in hell for that , I want cameron to do as he prommised now thats all

Your expecting justice and compassion from a Tory PM .... the pig Churchill sacrificed how many in Coventry ? and slaughtered how many in Dresden.

Hopefully Blair will end up on an an escalator to one of Dantes lower levels .

Sorry IMHO all present day politicians (local/national/ international) are nothing more than deviant degenirates , how many retired "working people" politicians do you know who have retired to a council flat