R.I.P. Amy Winehouse - Page 6

heth · 25-07-2011, 23:46

Jumping the gun again Tealeaf??

I do like some of her songs but havent bought any of them.

heth · 25-07-2011, 23:49

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

Why suggest someone should sniff some white powder?

Tealeaf puts things like that as he thinks its funny. Even if it is a personal towards me.

Shame no-one else does.

Michael1954 · 25-07-2011, 23:54

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Ain't that what their heroine (excuse the pun) has been doing for the last five years or so?

So are you suggesting that anyone who listens to her takes drugs? I don't care for her music, but I would not make the suggestion about her fans that you did. I like the Doors but have no intention of emulating the late Jim Morrison's drug habits. I like the Stones but would not emulate Keith Richards' previous drug habits.

Mancie · 26-07-2011, 00:11

I suspect I'm not the only one who has had friends that have died in thier 20's who used no drugs wether illegal or not..she is dead and I don't go along with this crap that she is any influence on anyone.

Tealeaf · 26-07-2011, 00:26

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

So are you suggesting that anyone who listens to her takes drugs? I don't care for her music, but I would not make the suggestion about her fans that you did. I like the Doors but have no intention of emulating the late Jim Morrison's drug habits. I like the Stones but would not emulate Keith Richards' previous drug habits.

If she wanted to take drugs, thats no problem with me - she could easily afford them. I doubt that many of her followers, could, though and they no doubt are busy shooting up and sniffing up. They are the same characters who follow this lifestyle except unlike your beloved Ms Whinehouse, they don't have the dosh to pay for it - they have to resort to other means.

So next time you're on hols and return to find a visit from your drugged up neighbourhood burglar, please remember in between wondering where your Sony home cinema system has gone and clearing up the turds on your axminster carpet, thats it's all down to people like that wonderful woman, Amy.

Neil · 26-07-2011, 00:49

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

There are quite a few nasty, personal comments being posted on this thread.

I agree there are.

People have their own opinion on this subject which is good for debate but please can we not get nasty towards each other.

Tealeaf · 26-07-2011, 00:54

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Originally Posted by Neil

I agree there are.

People have their own opinion on this subject which is good for debate but please can we not get nasty towards each other.

I fully concur. I have simply stated a few home truths and yet have been subjected to the most vicious and sustained personnel attack since I can recall from at least last week.

Neil · 26-07-2011, 00:56

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

I fully concur. I have simply stated a few home truths and yet have been subjected to the most vicious and sustained personnel attack since I can recall from at least last week.

As long as last week ago, that's longer than usual.
Fortunately you have broad shoulders so I am sure it wont be a problem for you.

Michael1954 · 26-07-2011, 00:59

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

If she wanted to take drugs, thats no problem with me - she could easily afford them. I doubt that many of her followers, could, though and they no doubt are busy shooting up and sniffing up. They are the same characters who follow this lifestyle except unlike your beloved Ms Whinehouse, they don't have the dosh to pay for it - they have to resort to other means.

So next time you're on hols and return to find a visit from your drugged up neighbourhood burglar, please remember in between wondering where your Sony home cinema system has gone and clearing up the turds on your axminster carpet, thats it's all down to people like that wonderful woman, Amy.

Going back to my original question, why did you suggest someone on here should sniff white powder? My point was some of the comments on this thread have been nasty and personal. Is your idea of having a discussion or debate with someone is to win it by insulting them rather than by reasoned debate?

Tealeaf · 26-07-2011, 01:13

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

Going back to my original question, why did you suggest someone on here should sniff white powder? My point was some of the comments on this thread have been nasty and personal. Is your idea of having a discussion or debate with someone is to win it by insulting them rather than by reasoned debate?

Could I respectfully suggest that you try and avoid getting emotional? I know it's late at night and probably way past your bedtime and far too late for you to get into a debate about what makes a good debate.

Therefore I suggest that you depart upstairs now and first thing tomorrow you get out a dictionary and look up rhetoric, logic, deduction, evidence, pathos, humour and a few other concepts that make a good discussion and then maybe come back on here tomorrow evening sometime. With a bit of luck, I may even be around to assist you.

Neil · 26-07-2011, 01:47

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

....Therefore I suggest that you depart upstairs now and first thing tomorrow you get out a dictionary and look up rhetoric, logic, deduction, evidence, pathos, humour and a few other concepts that make a good discussion and then maybe come back on here tomorrow evening sometime. With a bit of luck, I may even be around to assist you.

I have no idea what those words mean but he could look up sarcasm, I understand that one

Eric · 26-07-2011, 05:09

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Thank you, Retlaw for putting this thread into perspective.

I note that tonight the street in which this woman lived is still mainly sealed off with police ‘Do Not Cross’ tape. It is not, as far as I am aware, a scene of crime. I therefore can only assume that it is due to restraining the grieving hordes of ‘hero’ worshippers who no doubt, are wailing tears and lighting candles or indulging in whatever is the latest fad to mourn the dead in this country’s celebrity obsessed culture.

That warped hysteria is reflected on this very website; there are two threads on the death of this druggie, and with a couple of exceptions, they all post some sort of sympathy note. Never mind that few (if any) ever met the stupid woman (I did, by the way, and my only impression was of an arrogant, ignorant brat), whatever the logic is behind this is beyond me. I would, however have thought that if there was to be significant postings about events outside Accy over this last weekend it would have been concerning Norway.

There is but one thread on this subject and that has received exactly ten posts. Now, it may well be that I have old fashioned values, but nevertheless I would have thought people are more prepared to extend sympathy to 80 innocent young people working towards bettering their country and society than some drug addicted rich bitch with pretensions to sing about how bad life is. I think that now is the time that those people who have stuck posts such as ‘R.I.P.Amy’ should hang their heads in shame; they are an absolute disgrace.

On the "Norway" thread: I think Romps put it well in post #4, "Words fail me." I suspect many folks think that way. What can one say? Perhaps, it is easier to talk about Amy Winehouse because she was a notorious celeb, and, let's face it, her end was not unexpected. And I don't believe that anyone should be ashamed of wishing that a fellow human, one who had led a troubled life, should rest in peace. There are issues surrounding the massacre that will have to be considered and discussed. But now, in my opinion, is not the time.

Michael1954 · 26-07-2011, 05:27

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Originally Posted by Neil

I have no idea what those words mean but he could look up sarcasm, I understand that one

Which is precisely why Tealeaf loses yet another discussion.

Michael1954 · 26-07-2011, 05:31

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Originally Posted by Tealeaf

Could I respectfully suggest that you try and avoid getting emotional? I know it's late at night and probably way past your bedtime and far too late for you to get into a debate about what makes a good debate.

Therefore I suggest that you depart upstairs now and first thing tomorrow you get out a dictionary and look up rhetoric, logic, deduction, evidence, pathos, humour and a few other concepts that make a good discussion and then maybe come back on here tomorrow evening sometime. With a bit of luck, I may even be around to assist you.

Mmm . . . now I think it is you who is being a bit emotional. Do calm down.

Eric · 26-07-2011, 05:47

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Originally Posted by Michael1954

Which is precisely why Tealeaf loses yet another discussion.

"Lose a discussion"

I somehow get the idea that you are not on the same page as most of the rest of us. How many discussions has Tealeaf lost? Is he in danger of being relegated