R.i.p. Tony benn

cmonstanley · 14-03-2014, 07:27

r.i.p. to tony benn a true politician who we wont see the likes again

and also a belated r.i.p. to bob crowe who was demonised by the hedge fund press.

cashman · 14-03-2014, 07:41

2 decent blokes no doubt R.I.P.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-03-2014, 07:54

Rest in Peace Tony. The world is a poorer place today.
He was a politician who really believed in helping those less able to help themselves.
A socialist, a true socialist.

cashman · 14-03-2014, 08:00

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Rest in Peace Tony. The world is a poorer place today.
He was a politician who really believed in helping those less able to help themselves.
A socialist, a true socialist.

True, the fact he was a multi-millionaire carried little weight wi the fella,40 odd years ago,had the good fortune to meet him. a proper gent n one of the last true socialsts.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-03-2014, 08:29

Yes Cashy - he would knock the spots off the present stuff that think they can govern the country.
As you say the fact that he had money didn't blind him to the needs of the people who hadn't. No 'I'm alright Jack' about him.

DtheP47 · 14-03-2014, 09:15

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley

r.i.p. to tony benn a true politician who we wont see the likes again

and also a belated r.i.p. to bob crowe who was demonised by the hedge fund press.

Amen to that cmon.......

Wynonie Harris · 14-03-2014, 09:34

Yes, RIP Tony Benn, a man who always spoke his mind. However, I have to smile cynically at some of the eulogies that are pouring in. If he had come on here and expounded his views on immigration (he was in favour and thought it was a good thing), law and order (he believed in rehabilitation, rather than retributive justice) and quite a few other subjects, he would have been castigated as a bleeding heart do-gooder!

Accyexplorer · 14-03-2014, 11:43

Tony Benn stood up for what was 'right', one of the very few politicians that was worthy of respect, he will be remembered with reverence.

"If we can find the money to kill people, we can find the money to help people".
RIP Tony Benn.

Margaret Pilkington · 14-03-2014, 12:15

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Yes, RIP Tony Benn, a man who always spoke his mind. However, I have to smile cynically at some of the eulogies that are pouring in. If he had come on here and expounded his views on immigration (he was in favour and thought it was a good thing), law and order (he believed in rehabilitation, rather than retributive justice) and quite a few other subjects, he would have been castigated as a bleeding heart do-gooder!

I may not have agreed with him, but he was passionate about what he thought was right.He didn't seem to rely on 'soundbite' politics...telling those who listened what he thought they wanted to hear....If you didn't like what he said then it was your problem...and he would try to persuade you that his ideals were the right ones.

Eric · 14-03-2014, 13:15

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Yes, RIP Tony Benn, a man who always spoke his mind. However, I have to smile cynically at some of the eulogies that are pouring in. If he had come on here and expounded his views on immigration (he was in favour and thought it was a good thing), law and order (he believed in rehabilitation, rather than retributive justice) and quite a few other subjects, he would have been castigated as a bleeding heart do-gooder!

On the other hand, his position on the EU, and his desire to make MPs more responsive to the wishes of their constituents would have won him lots of support. A commited socialist who was never a mere ideologue ... R.I.P. Tony Benn.

US Angel · 14-03-2014, 13:42

R.I.P. Tony Benn

Wynonie Harris · 14-03-2014, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Eric

On the other hand, his position on the EU, and his desire to make MPs more responsive to the wishes of their constituents would have won him lots of support. A commited socialist who was never a mere ideologue ... R.I.P. Tony Benn.

Quite, right, Eric, his Euro-scepticism made him an odd man out with most left-wing socialists who are solidly pro-EU. However, I still find it ironic that he's now being praised, when the very views he supported on immigration, law and order and other subjects would see your average punter called everything under the sun from a do-gooder to much worse on here!

Eric · 14-03-2014, 22:44

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Quite, right, Eric, his Euro-scepticism made him an odd man out with most left-wing socialists who are solidly pro-EU. However, I still find it ironic that he's now being praised, when the very views he supported on immigration, law and order and other subjects would see your average punter called everything under the sun from a do-gooder to much worse on here!

Maybe he was one of those rare (really rare

) politicians who fought for what he believed in, not for what he was told to believe in.

Wynonie Harris · 14-03-2014, 23:39

No maybe about it in my view, Eric, Tony Benn walked it like he talked it. He also knew that you can't be a "traditional socialist" and think that Enoch was right...which is why he wouldn't have lasted five minutes on here before he was being castigated for being a do-gooder whose like had ruined the country!

accyman · 15-03-2014, 08:31

tony benn stood up to the party leader unlike this current shower of crap we have now who are so far up their leaders arse all you can see is their toe nails