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30-01-2008, 13:41
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Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
The Law Lords have ruled that a victim of rape can now sue the rapist even though her claim is outside the six-years deadline.
“Until now sexual abuse victims have been prevented from bringing a claim more than six years after an attack or, in child abuse cases, more than six years after the victim reaches 18.”
This ruling is plainly wrong and will no doubt open the floodgates for other claims. Why should a criminal years after the crime, be liable to be sued just because of either good fortune or hard work he has increased his bank balance?
“Iorworth Hoare, 53, was jailed for life in May 1989 for the attempted rape of the 59-year-old woman, Mrs A, in Leeds.”
Hoare won £7m on the Lottery on the 7th August 2004 whilst on day release prior to permanent release. Prisoners on day release are allowed to buy Lottery tickets. Hoare was released on strict conditions under a life license in March 2005.
The Law in its wisdom decreed that there is a statute of limitation on suing someone and until that is lawfully changed after due process this Law Lords ruling is WRONG.
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30-01-2008, 21:29
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
I think the ruling is wrong. The lady in question was reported as having received £5000 compensation from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board , which I imagine was accepted by herself or her solicitors. ( I don’t know how that system works, I assume it is fair )
I thought that the general idea of going to prison was to be punished, pay your debt to society and make a new start upon release. Under this ruling it would seem that that is not the case anymore.
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30-01-2008, 22:16
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
In legal terms, wrong it might be, but I hope this poor lady takes this piece of scum for every penny she can get out of him. Unjust?...perhaps, but in my eyes, it's natural justice!
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30-01-2008, 23:17
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
why the hell did he have the privelege to buy a ticket any way if you go to jail do not pass go do not collect 200
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30-01-2008, 23:20
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris
In legal terms, wrong it might be, but I hope this poor lady takes this piece of scum for every penny she can get out of him. Unjust?...perhaps, but in my eyes, it's natural justice!
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agreed but natural justice dont sit well with some.
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30-01-2008, 23:20
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
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why the hell did he have the privelege to buy a ticket any way if you go to jail do not pass go do not collect 200
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Perhaps it was a sunny day and all the screws were in a good mood.
Fact is he won a prize on his day out, I for one do not see why this lady has any claim on that prize.
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30-01-2008, 23:23
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
I think the first wrong was allowing him to buy a lottery ticket whilst in jail.
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30-01-2008, 23:31
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
this mug rapped a women and can move on as a million pound winner thats justice so who says crime doesnt pay
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30-01-2008, 23:32
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
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Perhaps it was a sunny day and all the screws were in a good mood.
Fact is he won a prize on his day out, I for one do not see why this lady has any claim on that prize.
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how about hes a dirty stinking rapist who left women possibly/probably scarred for life, who came across millions by luck/chance, and deserves to be made to part with it. NATURAL JUSTICE.
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30-01-2008, 23:48
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
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this mug rapped a women and can move on as a million pound winner thats justice so who says crime doesnt pay
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I don’t think any woman who has been a victim of rape will ever feel that justice has been had, irrespective of the perpetrators sentence, I can’t imagine the anguish and stress such women endure. I am wary that this particular ruling is going to open the floodgates to claims being made against folk who commit lesser crimes, who have already paid fines or compensation to victims etc.
The phrase “ if you cant do the time don’t do the crime” is often bandied about. Time was served, punishment taken. Must he care for this woman financially until he ends his days?
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30-01-2008, 23:54
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
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how about hes a dirty stinking rapist who left women possibly/probably scarred for life, who came across millions by luck/chance, and deserves to be made to part with it. NATURAL JUSTICE.
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The woman will be scarred for life, not possibly scarred for life. 12 just men presided over the case, found him guilty, punishment was meted out and compensation given to the victim.
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31-01-2008, 00:09
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
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The woman will be scarred for life, not possibly scarred for life. 12 just men presided over the case, found him guilty, punishment was meted out and compensation given to the victim.
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so its fine that he lives happily ever after, not in my book.
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31-01-2008, 00:25
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
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so its fine that he lives happily ever after, not in my book.
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Whether he lives with a conscience has all his winnings taken off him, I couldn’t really care less. I’m saying that if this ruling is upheld for victims of rape and sex crimes, then it will automatically go right through the whole system, where will it end. You cant have a lad doing some petty crime in his youth only to be bitten in the arse , again, having paid his dues, if he comes into some good fortune later in life.
My fear, as stated , is that this will run right through the system. You cant have a system where a judge says “ I sentence you to blah blah blah…but if you win the lottery in the future we will have that off you”
Not in my opinion anyway.
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31-01-2008, 00:33
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
as he did NOT come into this fortune later in life, but on day release from prison it suits me down to the ground if this piece of crap is relieved of it, after that what needs to happen,is the law should be changed so that prisoners are excluded from purchasing em, so if they do n win tough. when they are FINALLY released i may view it differantly.i always find it very sad when people go with the "scumbag" n not the victim.
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31-01-2008, 00:47
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Re: Rape Victim Given Permission To Sue The Rapist.
He was sentenced in 1989 and won the lottery in 2004 that’s why I said later in life. Having said that, why he was gambling ( doing the Lottery ) whilst serving a sentence is beyond me, he should have been breaking rocks in Siberia or summat
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