Re-generation - Page 3

lancsdave · 01-12-2007, 15:16

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Originally Posted by blazey

can someone clarify which hill it is?

Baxenden hill

MargaretR · 01-12-2007, 15:18

Blazey -read this thread too
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...rry-34639.html

blazey · 01-12-2007, 15:27

I am just confused because I found a guide that refers to it as Hameldon, not Hambledon...

Obviously this makes a huge difference if I am volunteering as I need to know what hill I am actually looking into!

MargaretR · 01-12-2007, 15:29

By patrolling the land for them you will help them to claim squatters rights
see this stated in-
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...rry-34639.html

blazey · 01-12-2007, 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected]

By patrolling the land for them you will help them to claim squatters rights
see this stated in-
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...rry-34639.html

Yeh I see that but squatters rights isn't illegal, and yet I am a bit unsure that you can do work on land that you're simply squatting on. If the proper owners turned up surely they'd be done for allsorts of criminal damage and such?

MargaretR · 01-12-2007, 15:37

Quote Chelmswood -"the law of adverse possesion we are required to use the site for 12 months prior to starting work and it would be for the first 12 month that we would require a volunteer."

Quote Chelmswood - "there is no recorded or traceable owner and this is the method employed in all of our other projects which has seen vast ammounts of land designated as public common land and donated to local communities"

They could change their mind about 'donation'

Chelmswood · 01-12-2007, 15:45

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

Quote Chelmswood -"the law of adverse possesion we are required to use the site for 12 months prior to starting work and it would be for the first 12 month that we would require a volunteer."

Quote Chelmswood - "there is no recorded or traceable owner and this is the method employed in all of our other projects which has seen vast ammounts of land designated as public common land and donated to local communities"

They could change their mind about 'donation'

The estate Trust could not change there mind about donating, the land always truly belongs to the people it is simply the estate in charge of the upkeep and maintainence.

blazey · 01-12-2007, 15:49

I'm sure it's all just misunderstandings here. I have already volunteered and I am certain it is all legitimate, and if not I can always pull out, so I will wait and see what happens.

As long as I dont get tied up into anything illegal then I am happy to help.

MargaretR · 01-12-2007, 15:52

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Originally Posted by Chelmswood

The estate Trust could not change there mind about donating, the land always truly belongs to the people it is simply the estate in charge of the upkeep and maintainence.

King Wilinson OWN Slaidburn --- are they about to donate that too?

Chelmswood · 01-12-2007, 15:56

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

King Wilinson OWN Slaidburn --- are they about to donate that too?

The king-wilkinson estate is seperate to the Chelmswood estate and the Chelmswood estate trust, even though it is owned by the family.

MargaretR · 01-12-2007, 16:03

They acquired Slaidburn in the late 19th century-
Walk 2216 - Slaidburn Village Trail - Ribble Valley - Forest of Bowland AONB Lancashire - a detailed walk description from Walking Britain
extract-
"Slaidburn is unusual in that much of it is controlled by the King-Wilkinson family, which has owned most of the village since the late 19th century"

Since this landowning family wish to appear to have noble intentions - it is overdue for 'donation'.

WillowTheWhisp · 01-12-2007, 19:25

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Originally Posted by [email protected]

Quote Chelmswood -"the law of adverse possesion we are required to use the site for 12 months prior to starting work and it would be for the first 12 month that we would require a volunteer."

Quote Chelmswood - "there is no recorded or traceable owner and this is the method employed in all of our other projects which has seen vast ammounts of land designated as public common land and donated to local communities"

They could change their mind about 'donation'

When I raised the subject of adverse possession in a phone call to quarry owners I was informed that 12 months is nowhere near long enough.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blazey

I'm sure it's all just misunderstandings here. I have already volunteered and I am certain it is all legitimate, and if not I can always pull out, so I will wait and see what happens.

As long as I dont get tied up into anything illegal then I am happy to help.

How can you be so certain that it's all legitimate? When asked for details of the charitable trust none were forthcoming. Neither Garinda nor I were able to trace any legitimate charity by the name of Chelmswood.

Several genuine legitimate questions have remained unanswered.

I do hope you don't get mixed up in any dodgy dealings.

Chelmswood · 01-12-2007, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

When I raised the subject of adverse possession in a phone call to quarry owners I was informed that 12 months is nowhere near long enough.

How can you be so certain that it's all legitimate? When asked for details of the charitable trust none were forthcoming. Neither Garinda nor I were able to trace any legitimate charity by the name of Chelmswood.

Several genuine legitimate questions have remained unanswered.

I do hope you don't get mixed up in any dodgy dealings.

I think you will find under British law after 12 months of uninterrupted occupation we can legally begin work, however the whole process takes upto 12 years for normal land and upto 20 for crown land.

yerself · 01-12-2007, 20:29

Chelmswood still hasn't answered my question. Why have the people in Slaidburn (the ones I've spoken to) never heard of Chelmswood ? They had heard of the Knowlmere estate which has links to Accrington.

blazey · 01-12-2007, 21:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

When I raised the subject of adverse possession in a phone call to quarry owners I was informed that 12 months is nowhere near long enough.

How can you be so certain that it's all legitimate? When asked for details of the charitable trust none were forthcoming. Neither Garinda nor I were able to trace any legitimate charity by the name of Chelmswood.

Several genuine legitimate questions have remained unanswered.

I do hope you don't get mixed up in any dodgy dealings.

I said the volunteering is legitimate. I can obviously refuse to participate in anything I think is illegal or not right. I'm not going to entangle myself to deeply into it initially anyway until I recieve a response from people I have contacted about it all and as a student who is taught by people who have particular specialist knowledge of land law, I will be able to refer to them before involving myself in anything that may be illegal.

I think he is referring to it as 'charity' though based on the concept of the volunteer work, it isn't like theyre asking for money or anything, just a helping hand? Its not that bad of an idea if it works out.