Real unemplyment figures

entwisi · 19-08-2009, 06:58

so, although taken from biased reporting media the source was independant so,

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...h-reveals.html

6 million really unemployed with projections of 6.4 million by the end of the year

worst case under Maggie 4.9 million

current cost to taxpayer 193 billion!!!!! 100 million more than when they came to power, now I'm sure that benefits haven't doubled......

so just where is this Goverment showing it has its finger on this?

yes there is a need for ssocial security for those that really need it but 193 billion pounds worth in this tiny country of ours? there are only ~ 60 million adults in the country for goodness sake

Boeing Guy · 19-08-2009, 10:35

Interesting to see no remarks from our left wing branch....yet

garinda · 19-08-2009, 11:29

How time flies.

Is it really only fifteen years since John Prescott, then opposition employment spokesman, was accusing the then government of the day of hiding the true unemployment figure?

Ministers told to attack Labour job claims - UK Politics, UK - The Independent

Party politics is like some damn merry-go-round.

The same old boring ride, with only the dodgy old man taking your money being occasionally different.

Bernard Dawson · 19-08-2009, 11:36

As the good old Daily Mail as commissioned the dodgy research, its surprising the figures are not even higher.

Wynonie Harris · 19-08-2009, 12:03

Wouldn't believe anything this government or the oppostion parties say about umemployment figues or anything else. They're all a bunch of liars, charlatans and scoundrels!

entwisi · 19-08-2009, 12:59

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Originally Posted by Bernard Dawson

As the good old Daily Mail as commissioned the dodgy research, its surprising the figures are not even higher.

Policy Exchange is an independent, non-partisan educational charity. We work with academics and policy makers from across the political spectrum. We are particularly interested in free market and localist solutions to public policy questions.

teh report was also published by teh telegraph, teh Sun, wales online, nuneaton Blah blah blah......

garinda · 19-08-2009, 13:18

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Policy Exchange is an independent, non-partisan educational charity. We work with academics and policy makers from across the political spectrum. We are particularly interested in free market and localist solutions to public policy questions.

teh report was also published by teh telegraph, teh Sun, wales online, nuneaton Blah blah blah......

Although the fairly right-wing itself Daily Telegraph, describes it as such...

'Policy Exchange has established itself not only as the largest, but also the most influential think tank on the right.'

The Right's 100 Most Influential: 50-26 - Telegraph

Less · 19-08-2009, 13:50

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Policy Exchange is an independent, non-partisan educational charity. We work with academics and policy makers from across the political spectrum. We are particularly interested in free market and localist solutions to public policy questions.

teh report was also published by teh telegraph, teh Sun, wales online, nuneaton Blah blah blah......

You say WE? are you declaring yourself to be part of this self centred group?

Oh my Goodness, there is no hope? If this is the best a think tank can recruit!

Pull the other one, since when have you been part of a WE instead of your big I AM?

P.S. Blah blah blah...... isn't really a good way of describing your beliefs

garinda · 19-08-2009, 14:02

....and having that old right-wing war horse, and former editor of the Daily Telegraph, Charles Moore, as it's Chairman, does call into question the validity of Policy Exchange's claim to be politically neutral, even when described by the Daily Telegraph as being right-wing.

entwisi · 19-08-2009, 14:25

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Originally Posted by Less

You say WE? are you declaring yourself to be part of this self centred group?

Oh my Goodness, there is no hope? If this is the best a think tank can recruit!

Pull the other one, since when have you been part of a WE instead of your big I AM?

P.S. Blah blah blah...... isn't really a good way of describing your beliefs

Yawn, poor attempt, heres some wine gums....

quotes from the website if you hadn't worked out like all the others

Less · 19-08-2009, 14:38

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Originally Posted by entwisi

Yawn, poor attempt, heres some wine gums....

quotes from the website if you hadn't worked out like all the others

Oh dear, the best you can do? Why not mention the funds that went to helping the dosser folk that work for banks?

Nice secure jobs and a big bonus at the end of cocking up, No you would rather pick on the vulnerable, the unemployed the weak, blame them for this recession.

There will always be people needing a helping hand from society, but that is usually because of circumstances beyond their control, stick to bragging about how your bank didn't need a hand out, but don't come crying on here when you get made redundant by them because you, no matter how secure you feel will be in the front line, (I bet you had to duck the last time such rumours were being passed around).

accyman · 19-08-2009, 14:38

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to be fair most people use teh quote tags when quoting somthing, well except newbies lol

can i have wine gum please

BERNADETTE · 19-08-2009, 15:21

You might like to take into account that "carers" are now included in the unemployment figures. Beyond me how they can class a "carer" as unemployed but hey ho what do I know about caring? And whilst we are calculating how much "carers" get paid all £53 or something very near that figure you might also want to calculate how many millions of pounds they save the country every year!!!!

andrewb · 19-08-2009, 16:18

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Originally Posted by garinda

....and having that old right-wing war horse, and former editor of the Daily Telegraph, Charles Moore, as it's Chairman, does call into question the validity of Policy Exchange's claim to be politically neutral, even when described by the Daily Telegraph as being right-wing.

It describes itself as looking for free market solutions. Therefore it's right wing on the political spectrum.. doesn't mean it is party political. I'm sure you yourself have an idea of thinking, but don't necessarily support any particular party.

I agree with Bernadette, full time carers shouldn't be included in the jobless total.

Eric · 19-08-2009, 18:04

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Originally Posted by Less

Oh dear, the best you can do? Why not mention the funds that went to helping the dosser folk that work for banks?

Nice secure jobs and a big bonus at the end of cocking up, No you would rather pick on the vulnerable, the unemployed the weak, blame them for this recession.

There will always be people needing a helping hand from society, but that is usually because of circumstances beyond their control, stick to bragging about how your bank didn't need a hand out, but don't come crying on here when you get made redundant by them because you, no matter how secure you feel will be in the front line, (I bet you had to duck the last time such rumours were being passed around).

Good point ... I remember Ed Broadbent, former leader of the New Democrats, referring to the banks and big business in general as "corporate welfare bums." There is too much criticism of the little people who find themselves in a bind because of bad business decisions on the part of big business, and too little criticism of those business who begged for, and received, billions of dollars from govt. (The govt. of Ontario handed out over 5 billion dollars to GM ... and the UAW (United Auto Workers), those terrible unions, eh, took massive wage cutbacks to help out the industry.))