reasons to hate the tories - Page 13

kestrelx · 24-10-2010, 21:07

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Originally Posted by cashman

Forget all the waffle, the big reason to hate em is "Thatcher"

Another reason, mentioned on the Politics show this morning - wealthy pensioners will still get free bus passes, winter fuel payments and TV licences even if they have 1,000's of pounds in the bank! While others with no savings will have their housing benefits cut! Tories protecting the rich and making the poor pay for it!

Keep fox hunting illegal!

cmonstanley · 24-10-2010, 23:49

looks like a little rumbling happening already BBC News - Welfare cuts 'will not be approved', warns Hughes

kestrelx · 25-10-2010, 08:24

Food for thought...

jaysay · 25-10-2010, 09:23

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Another reason, mentioned on the Politics show this morning - wealthy pensioners will still get free bus passes, winter fuel payments and TV licences even if they have 1,000's of pounds in the bank! While others with no savings will have their housing benefits cut! Tories protecting the rich and making the poor pay for it!

Keep fox hunting illegal!

I've been saying that for weeks, its a nonsense, but remember who set it up that way and it certainly wasn't the Tories, to my mind you should not get it automatically, like other benefits you should have to apply, so that those with enough money wouldn't qualify

cashman · 25-10-2010, 09:27

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I've been saying that for weeks, its a nonsense, but remember who set it up that way and it certainly wasn't the Tories, to my mind you should not get it automatically, like other benefits you should have to apply, so that those with enough money wouldn't qualify

Thats very unfair!!!...............yer making it difficult to hate ya.

jaysay · 25-10-2010, 10:27

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Originally Posted by cashman

Thats very unfair!!!...............yer making it difficult to hate ya.

I'm that sort of a chap really

DaveinGermany · 25-10-2010, 16:05

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Another reason, mentioned on the Politics show this morning - wealthy pensioners will still get free bus passes, winter fuel payments and TV licences even if they have 1,000's of pounds in the bank!

Wealthy Pensioners ? Who exactly are these wealthy Pensioners ? Working & Middle Class families who've spent near on 50 years in toil !

Not your Landed Gentry by a long shot ! Oh no ! That is a different league & class entirely !

Have you ever thought these so called "wealthy Pensioners" may just have grafted all their lives & done whatever was needed to get by (hard physical graft ! Getting up at sparrow fart & coming home late at night ! Working antisocial hours & shifts) all to raise their families properly & make sure there was always food on the table, going without, making sacrifices ! Being frugal & sensible with their earnings !

Oh yeah, while they were grafting they were also paying taxes so remind me again .... just who is looking after who ?

Gordon Booth · 25-10-2010, 16:45

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

wealthy pensioners will still get free bus passes, winter fuel payments and TV licences even if they have 1,000's of pounds in the bank!

Apparently it would cost so much to means test these benefits(extra civil servants, paperwork etc) that the costs would be far more than the savings.
Also these 'wealthy pensioners' probably don't use their bus pass so no cost there.
And are you really upset that a 75 year old gets £2.88 a week free TV licence or a 65 year old £4.80 a week for heating(£2.40 each if there are 2 of you)?However much money they have?
Tell us what you mean by a 'wealthy pensioner'. Do you start with ordinary working people who saved a bit and work upwards from there? Tell us.

jaysay · 25-10-2010, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

Apparently it would cost so much to means test these benefits(extra civil servants, paperwork etc) that the costs would be far more than the savings.
Also these 'wealthy pensioners' probably don't use their bus pass so no cost there.
And are you really upset that a 75 year old gets £2.88 a week free TV licence or a 65 year old £4.80 a week for heating(£2.40 each if there are 2 of you)?However much money they have?
Tell us what you mean by a 'wealthy pensioner'. Do you start with ordinary working people who saved a bit and work upwards from there? Tell us.

Well I don't agree with everybody getting these payments as I've already stated Gordon, but you do make valid points, and of course there is also the fact that they have probably worked all their lives and paid into the system so therefore are fully entitled to it

Gordon Booth · 25-10-2010, 17:56

I don't agree with it either, Jaysay, but don't you think if was possible to means test these benefits and SAVE money the Labour Government would definately have done it? So would this Government.
I look foreward to Kestrelx's definition of a 'wealthy pensioner'.As 10% of the people own 90% of the wealth(it is said) and of that 10% one in five will be a pensioner we're not talking many,are we? Or does he start a LOT lower?

jaysay · 25-10-2010, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth

I don't agree with it either, Jaysay, but don't you think if was possible to means test these benefits and SAVE money the Labour Government would definately have done it? So would this Government.
I look foreward to Kestrelx's definition of a 'wealthy pensioner'.As 10% of the people own 90% of the wealth(it is said) and of that 10% one in five will be a pensioner we're not talking many,are we? Or does he start a LOT lower?

One never knows where the green eyed yellow monsters sets it sights Gordon