Referendum is a load of crap.!! - Page 124

Less · 20-06-2018, 14:59

I've often wondered, how can we be a democracy when people that aren't voted for can stop the people actually voted for from passing laws? Mind you we don't need a second house for that, our very own M.P. always goes against the will of the people!
But what do I know I'm the result of bad education in the 60's I know nothing (politicians keep telling me)..

Margaret Pilkington · 21-06-2018, 09:17

Less, despite your bad 1960's education, you have had a full life and the experiences you have had have taught you to look critically at how these 'elite'(self determined) see their role in meddling with our lives.
Politicians do not go into politics to benefit the electors(though they might want you to think that they have our interests at heart) they go into politics for their own agenda.
They tell us what they think will buy our vote for them, with no intention of keeping any promises made.
There are very very few politicians that I have any respect for....Frank Field is the only one that I can bring to mind.

They do it purely and simply because they CAN!

monkey hanger · 21-06-2018, 10:37

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Originally Posted by Less

But what do I know I'm the result of bad education in the 60's I know nothing (politicians keep telling me)..

i am in the same boat as well. the trouble with our politicians is that they seem a different animal to the ones we had in the 60,s and before. some like my friend blair come over more like a dodgy used car salesmen than their predicessors did.

Exile on Spencer St · 21-06-2018, 13:24

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"...some like my friend blair come over more like a dodgy used car salesmen....

I think you're being unfair to dodgy used car salesmen comparing them with Bliar.

Margaret Pilkington · 21-06-2018, 13:27

Tony Blair is the slime that a slug leaves behind.

Less · 21-06-2018, 13:42

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

I think you're being unfair to dodgy used car salesmen comparing them with Bliar.

Quite right, a dodgy car salesman if caught doing something illegal can be prosecuted, the other guy is above the law and will always be protected from justice.

Less · 21-06-2018, 13:48

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Tony Blair is the slime that a slug leaves behind.

Nope, the slime from a slug does no harm whereas his WMD's killed many even though they didn't exist!

Margaret Pilkington · 21-06-2018, 15:14

Yes Less...right again.
But slug slime is repugnant and useless(unless you are a slug that is.....snail slime is supposed to be good for the skin, but I have not heard that slug slime has the same attributes)...it lets you know you have had an unwelcome visitor that may have taken stuff from you(lettuce, cabbage, green shoots of new plants) and it gets you reaching for the salt.
Alas, the odious Tony Blair has proved more difficult to deter.

Margaret Pilkington · 21-06-2018, 15:17

That this man is protected from justice will irk me until the day he dies.
It just shows that justice is not available to the common man....it catches the small flies, but the large ones break through unharmed.

monkey hanger · 22-06-2018, 08:23

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That this man is protected from justice will irk me until the day he dies.
It just shows that justice is not available to the common man....it catches the small flies, but the large ones break through unharmed.

british justice is the best in the world as long as you can afford it.

Less · 22-06-2018, 08:37

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british justice is the best in the world as long as you can afford it.

That should be in 'best quote ever' thread.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-06-2018, 11:10

On Good Morning Britain this morning their was a poll that suggested that the population, if asked the question on the referendum paper would have voted by 57%to 43% to stay in the EU.
This poll was conducted by Survation.
What GMB failed to tell their viewers was that this poll sampled only 1022 participants and it was an online only survey.

So folks out there....do not take on face value what the media has to say in respect of important issues.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-06-2018, 11:13

Oh yes...Survation are a 'creative and innovative market research company'...their words.
There are lies, damned lies then there are misleading market research polls.

cashman · 22-06-2018, 11:23

Well i have spoke to many people, not as many as them though, some were remainers some leavers and over 90% of all said they would vote Leave in a second referendum, a few did say they voted once but NOT vote again.

Margaret Pilkington · 22-06-2018, 12:17

Like you Cashy, I speak to a fair number of people...none of those who voted leave(in my circle of acquaintances) would change their vote....but some who voted remain now say that because of how those EU 'negotiations' have been conducted and the bullying tactics used, if they had a second chance to vote, they would now vote 'leave'.