Referendum is a load of crap.!! - Page 127

Margaret Pilkington · 09-07-2018, 20:53

Oh Less....you are a star!
Thank you for turning my frown upside down.
All this is getting too, too tedious.
My simple response would be to go to Brussels, tell them what was on offer, if they wanted it then they needed to get their ducks in a row...If not then we would be leaving on the aforementioned date, there would be no cash from that point on, no trade agreements and no free movement....then I would turn and walk....making sure the door was firmly slammed behind me.
There would be no....'well, we'll give you this, or that' or any damn thing else.
And just watch them come after me.
Play hard ball with their balls(the game sort of course).

Margaret Pilkington · 09-07-2018, 20:55

No...I don't work week ends nor do I do European travel either!

Less · 09-07-2018, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

No...I don't work week ends nor do I do European travel either!

Maybe it's time we did both?

European travel in a few tanks and do it at a week-end when all their know all bosses are having time off?

Let's face it, they wouldn't dare stop us until they got the correct paperwork!

P.S. that is me, the older I get the more like monty I look, which is strange because when I was born I was supposedly ugly enough to look like Churchill!

Margaret Pilkington · 09-07-2018, 21:18

I like the cut of your tank.....but didn't we haul their sorry a$$es out of the mire in the past?
This is how they repay their allies. All is forgotten...except the debt they THINK we owe them....nothing said about their moral debt to the UK.
But then we aren't supposed to mention the war are we??
I never did trust those on the other side of the channel....especially the frogs.

Less · 09-07-2018, 21:23

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

I like the cut of your tank.....but didn't we haul their sorry a$$es out of the mire in the past?
This is how they repay their allies. All is forgotten...except the debt they THINK we owe them....nothing said about their moral debt to the UK.
But then we aren't supposed to mention the war are we??
I never did trust those on the other side of the channel....especially the frogs.

Wasn't one of the main members just a touch, maybe a little, slightly, not quite middle of the road and rather biased towards not being an Allie? However, that is enough about the French, let bygones be bygones.

Less · 09-07-2018, 21:55

Do do seem to remember reading somewhere that one of the Nazi back up plans was to stash a few gold bars here and there just in case things went whoopsie and invest them in creating a group of countries within Europe so that eventually they would still gain control.

Of course I dismissed the idea because my elders and betters said that they couldn't be so forward thinking, the common feeling was Nah, we wouldn't be fooled again.

monkey hanger · 10-07-2018, 08:35

the worst thing is that the majority of us can do sod all about brexit. i hate whats going on at the moment but my memory is still fine. come the day any pro european comes up for election lets give em what they,ve been wanting, a big kick up the jacksy any chance we get.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-07-2018, 09:20

It will not make one jot of difference whatever we do....they are immune to anything we have in our arsenal.
While in politics these 'honourable members' make contingency plans, they network so that come the day they are booted out...they will still have more money than you can poke a stick at.
No one leaves politics a pauper.
Look at Tony Blair and those of his ilk...rolling in it they are....after dinner speakers, foreign envoys, writers of memoirs....all lucrative pursuits where there is no actual physical work done.
They do not know they are born.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-07-2018, 09:36

The cynical side of me (I know, I know....how can someone so sweet have a cynical side?)wonders if all the resignations, the brinkmanship is part of the plan to scupper any chance of leaving the EU in the way that electorate voted for.
I am sure that those who voted to leave meant leave entirely...not a Hokey Cokey leave, with one foot in, one foot out and absolutely no say over what happens and into this bargain is that we STILL pay our good hard earned cash.

Maybe the meeting at Chequers was NOT to plan policy, to brink the doom mongers to heel...Maybe it was to plan a nefarious route to keep us hand cuffed to Brussels forever.

MoreJoe · 12-07-2018, 01:00

To quote the modern philosopher Joe Walsh:

"I go to parties
Sometimes until four.
It's hard to leave
When you can't find the door."

(From "Life's been good to me so far")

monkey hanger · 12-07-2018, 09:00

Maybe the meeting at Chequers was NOT to plan policy, to brink the doom mongers to heel...Maybe it was to plan a nefarious route to keep us hand cuffed to Brussels forever.[/QUOTE]

a hell of a lot of those who know best for all of us poor thick sods wanted to remain even may. if you are not totally behind anything in life you will not put one hundred per cent into it wether its leaving the EU or playing football.

Margaret Pilkington · 12-07-2018, 09:05

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Originally Posted by MoreJoe

To quote the modern philosopher Joe Walsh:

"I go to parties
Sometimes until four.
It's hard to leave
When you can't find the door."

(From "Life's been good to me so far")

I prefer the Hotel California lyric...it seems more appropriate....
'You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave'

The current proposals would mean exactly that...and it is NOT what was voted for.

cashman · 15-07-2018, 08:05

Have yez heard MAYS latest? agree with me or there will be NO BREXIT. i sincerely hope the bitch is dumped PDQ. the remaining cow is determined to have a soft brexit or stay in, i was foolish enough to believe the crap she spouted earlier.

Margaret Pilkington · 15-07-2018, 09:42

Well, I read it as get behind me and support my plan.....because we have already signed up to article 50....which means we will be out of the EU on 29th of March next year.
Whatever TM says it is happening.
Now whether that is with some kind of negotiated agreement on the thorny issues of trade or the ECJ or a customs union is a totally different matter.

My feeling is that when TM goes to Brussels with what is in the recent White Paper....Michel Barnier(his name means barrier, by the way) he will kick the proposals into the long grass.

This will mean that we will get what is termed a 'hard Brexit'...the EU want it to be like that because they passionately hope to see the UK fail.
This would deter other upstart nations from trying to follow suit.

It will not be a one foot in, one foot out deal. (A deal that would leave us as law takers and tax collectors for the EU....acolony of the E u if you like. I certainly do not want any part of a deal like that...because we would still be paying in) It would mean that we need pay none of the 39 billion pounds.....and we can take back our laws and borders....which is what most of the leavers voted for anyway.

cashman · 15-07-2018, 10:12

To be honest Margaret i aint convinced,he will kick it into touch, i think may has been talking to him on the Q.T. for quite awhile now hope i'm wrong but am very doubtful.

also doubt if the want us to leave "Money Talks"