Referendum is a load of crap.!!

[cashman]

The sooner many of these traitors are removed from office the sooner the country will start to recover, in my view.

[Margaret Pilkington]

I think the whole lot of them need to be dumped.
There are very very few of them who are worth their corn.
We should get a rebate from ours.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Please tell me I have read it right.....all options for tonight's votes have failed to reach a majority.
The Noes have it on all amendments.

[Margaret Pilkington]

And just as an added bonus Nick Boles(boles by name and boles by nature) has quit the Conservative party...he will be sadly missed(NOT).
Now it would be great if doddering Ken Clarke and John Major went with him....they say misery needs company.

[Ryewolf90]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Please tell me I have read it right

You read it right.


MPs have again failed to agree on all 4 proposals on the next steps for Brexit; and Nick Boles has resigned.

[Ryewolf90]

Graham P Jones (Hyndburn, Labour)

Voting record on the following Brexit proposals:

For Customs union: Seeking a UK-wide customs union with the EU (Ken Clarke's proposal - 273 votes for, 276 against)
Did not vote Common Market 2.0: Remaining in the European single market and seeking a temporary customs union with the EU (Nick Boles's proposal - 261 votes for, 282 against)
For Confirmatory referendum: Holding a public vote to confirm any withdrawal agreement agreed by Parliament (Peter Kyle and Phil Wilson's proposal - 280 votes for, 292 against)
Did not vote Parliamentary supremacy: Power for MPs to block leaving with no-deal by cancelling Brexit if EU won’t grant a further extension beyond 12 April (Joanna Cherry's proposal - 191 votes for, 292 against)

[Margaret Pilkington]

A senior civil servant, Mark Sedwill has produced a document full of doom and gloom......a supposed letter(leaked, well it would be wouldn't it...people will believe something if they think it was being hidden from us)...
food up ten per cent, police unable to protect us, impact on NI, block on borrowing....

all meaty stuff....all aimed at creating fear in the population.....because a fearful population sits down and does as it's told.....doesn't it? Not if it's British it doesn't.

This man wants us to believe this....to be shaking and fearful.

Now if food does rise ten per cent it will be because of greedy manufacturers who have been given permission to use the Brexit as an excuse for hiking prices.
Anyway, that might solve the obesity crisis.

How does this man know all these things?
Has he got a crystal ball? A doorway to the future that he can peep through?

No, of course not....these are just how he THINKS it MIGHT play out.

The civil servants in Westminster are unelected....but yet they seem to exert power over those who ARE elected.....and isn't this what we are trying to,escape from.......those who have only THEIR interests on the agenda and not ours.

I still want to be OUT....with no strings attached to us.....nothing to tie us to the toxic and failing experiment with people's lives, that is the EU.

[cashman]

The 4 amendments last night Bercow chose to be discussed @ voted on. All 4 were worse than Mays Brexit. imho. Graham Jones voted for Clarks i believe. if so the sooner he goes the better in my view,

[Margaret Pilkington]

If there is a snap election...which it might just come to( not that I really think an election will solve anything and it will keep us in the hell that the EU has beme, even longer)..seeing as that lot cannot agree on anything....then Cashy, you might just get your wish.

[cashman]

Is it just me or what? I reckon the speaker should keep order in the house, god knows it needs that. But the fact the speaker can determine what is discussed and what is not goes way beyond the power they should have in my opinion. you get a prat like Bercow, making his mind up on what suits him i reckon. this should not be allowed in my view.

[Margaret Pilkington]

The speaker is supposed to be impartial...but he clearly isn't...he is part and parcel of the remainer establishment...now there's a surprise!

[Margaret Pilkington]

https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-...cipal/speaker/
There you go Cashy....this is his role.

[cashman]

am aware the speaker should be impartial dont think Bercow knows what that means, but i fail to see why the speaker should be able to state what is or is not discussed?

[Margaret Pilkington]

It is(I think) down to him being in charge of procedural issues.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

It is(I think) down to him being in charge of procedural issues.

Probably correct but i dont think it should be. if they cannot remain impartial, its just extracting the urine.