Referendum is a load of crap.!! - Page 176

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 06:11

Another interesting story is that Robin Tilbrook of the English Democrats is challenging the government in the High Court on the legality of the extension.
He is saying that we are already out of the EU as the agreed date of the 29th of March was a legally binding contract.....that Mrs May is wasting her breath in trying to do anything else...because we are out.

Legal eagles say although the argument is strong, they believe it will fail.

cashman · 03-04-2019, 07:34

The odds are it will fail i reckon, cos there is far too many snakes against it.

Less · 03-04-2019, 08:28

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Legal eagles say although the argument is strong, they believe it will fail.

So, as well as democracy, Justice has been killed off.

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 08:54

It looks very much like it Less.

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 08:57

Hope is a good breakfast, but a bad supper.
Attrib. Sir Francis Bacon.

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 09:03

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...K-left-EU.html

There you go...this is the story.
Wouldn't it just be wonderful if it was to win.
What a poke in the nadgers it would be to Oliver Letwin....and a slap in the kisser for smug Yvette Balls-Cooper.

StanleyJosh · 03-04-2019, 09:37

No hope for my generation!!

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 10:06

No there definitely is not any hope for your generation.
If I were you....I would look at getting myself out of this country....Canada....Australia....either of those would do for me.
I am too old now to flit.
Should've gone in 74.

I do not know how you can look forward to a country/civilisation that is bereft of democracy.
Whose people feel so let down by those who are supposed to represent them.

Now if your post has been misconstrued by me and you feel that you would fare better within the EU....I would urge you to look at the Barcelona treaty....the Coudenhove-Kalergi Plan....and lastly the final part of the Lisbon Treaty(the treaties are legally binding documents by the way)
If we have not left by 2020, then we will be FORCED to adopt the Euro, there will be harmonisation of taxes, closer political union, the European Court of Justice will supersede any court in this land....there will be a European Army, we will be pushed into the Schengen Zone....and will be forced to accept unlimited freedom of movement.

None of this sits well with me.
Our Parliament will become little more than a parish council....rules will be handed down to us....we will have very little say in how these rules are passed because our voting weighting is currently only 8%....but will rise to....wait for it...12%.

So if this is what you want then....go for it!
I am sure you would be able to become naturalised in France, Spain, Italy, Portugal and be part of the EU.

Less · 03-04-2019, 11:18

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

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Our Parliament will become little more than a parish council....rules will be handed down to us....we will have very little say in how these rules are passed because our voting weighting is currently only 8%....but will rise to....wait for it...12%.

In amongst all this doom and gloom, there is one thing that Europe won't be allowed to take away from our M.P.s, and that is their right to vote through their own pay rises!!!

cashman · 03-04-2019, 11:20

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Originally Posted by Less

In amongst all this doom and gloom, there is one thing that Europe won't be allowed to take away from our M.P.s, and that is their right to vote through their own pay rises!!!

funny they always get an accept with that un,

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 11:26

Have a look at this....I did not find it...Nicola68.....who knows I am rabid anti EU sent it to me.

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 11:34

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Originally Posted by Less

In amongst all this doom and gloom, there is one thing that Europe won't be allowed to take away from our M.P.s, and that is their right to vote through their own pay rises!!!

Yes...that is so....and they will be even less value for money than they are now because the Houses of Parliament will not be making laws....they will just be rubber stamping the ones handed to us by the crew in Brussels.
In fact I think one of the prime reasons that they are currently running around like headless chickens is that they have quite forgotten WHY they are there....and have become ring rusty in respect of legislation.
They want it all handed to them on a plate....do not want to tax their grey muscle....and they certainly aren't taxing anything other than US.

NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE.
GET US OUT...RIGHT OUT.

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 11:39

In the YouTube clip....don't you find the quote from Michel Barnier interesting?

The heckler says it is 'unsubstantiated rubbish'....so who do you believe?
From all that has gone on in the broadcasts of the Brussels Bullies....I believe the young woman making these observations....and I am pretty sure she would have evidence to back up her claims.

cashman · 03-04-2019, 13:35

That video confirms what most people with sense already knew.

Margaret Pilkington · 03-04-2019, 13:51

Cashy I thought it might be worth putting it on here so that some of the people that are thwarting efforts might look at it.....I think you might get my drift...I know you are a very astue fellow.
Stuff like this should be in our media....not the current crap that is being spouted......Letting JC into the situation is like giving the fox the key to the chicken run.
That man is nothing more than a Marxist Opportunist...with an eye on the prize.
If he makes it so tha we stay in the CU...then we really have not left at all and both he and TM have betrayed their manifesto pledges