Referendum is a load of crap.!! - Page 228

cashman · 07-12-2019, 20:09

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St

Some can see it, Cashy!

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/201...ked-to-russia/

i sure hope enough can exile.

Jimmy Clitheroe · 09-12-2019, 12:53

I thought Thatcher was the worse PM we ever had (though my father actually believed it to be Churchill), then Blair came along and give her a run for her money.... I do believe whoever gets in out of this sad and pathetic bunch vying for power will exceed even those two to be the worse ever. How have we come to such a sad state of affairs where the choices we have to be our elected leaders have become so pitifully poor? Maybe we can't blame them when most people say things along the lines of "oh that's politics nothing to do with me" or an over pampered, soft, self-entitled society where the definition of 'poverty' is not being able to buy your offspring the latest iPhone/trainers and the clinically obese waddle about bemoaning how badly off they are. I really dislike what has happened to the country over the past couple of decades and I don't see any of the potential candidates for PM doing anything but make things worse. How sad a situation when all we can vote on is who can do us the least damage and not who can do us any good.

cashman · 09-12-2019, 13:53

i am convinced nothing will be as bad as thatcher, at least in my lifetime,she manipulated the people into selfish gets as far as im concerned, the " I m alright Jack Brigade"

Margaret Pilkington · 09-12-2019, 15:53

We need to turf out the chap who was supposed to represent us, but is more interested in the Yemen and Venezuela.
There needs to be a clear out of all the arrogant MP's who think they know more about what we want than we do.
I will walk over hot coals to cast my vote against the Labour candidate....and I never thought I would say that.

Jimmy Clitheroe · 09-12-2019, 18:50

The problem with the current version of the Labour Party is that they have become so concerned and wrapped up with "minorities" they have completely forgotten and ignored the majority. They will suffer mightily for that on Thursday.

cashman · 09-12-2019, 18:59

i certainly hope you are right jimmy, never ever thought i would say owt like that.

Margaret Pilkington · 09-12-2019, 21:43

Me too.
The current shower need to be wiped from British politics forever.
They are NOT socialists....and if elected the country would go down the gurgler.
Their plans are neither sensible nor sustainable and anyone who thinks they are should be in an insane asylum.

Jimmy Clitheroe · 09-12-2019, 23:35

Just watched the Question Time debate and in yet another 'weighted' audience only Farage (and I'm not a fan of his by no means) pointed out that an extra 8 million people in the country (officially) is one of the reasons there is such a strain on our infrastructure gets shouted down as racist by Rayner (shadow education secretary ? really, good god). When are the BBC ever going to have an audience that actually represents the British public ? One that puts the other side of the argument regarding those poor oppressed "Travellers"... I used to be ultra supportive of the BBC and lauded it being an oasis away from the drivel of advertising but the people running it are destroying it for the sake of their own agendas. Same as your good selves... the more I see of the current guise of the Labour party the more I believe it is just unelectable. This lot make even Derek Hatton look like a Kissinger style statesman.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-12-2019, 08:13

They won't because they are biased to favour the left.Why do you think so many of the 'luvvies' support Corbyn and his policies.
Most of these have their money in off shore accounts, but in any case if it all goes belly up, they have the resources to flit to some welcoming EU bolt hole.

The BBC are crapping themselves at the thought that BJ might(and it is only a might) ditch the Licence fee.

cashman · 10-12-2019, 08:59

The B.B.C. have completely capitulated to Labour, i rarely watch anything political on it any more,i never watched it cos to me it was obvious what the script would be.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-12-2019, 09:54

Most of the televised 'news' on all channels seems to be biased in a similar way Cashy.
I have not watched any of the televised political stuff because it is not worth watching.

Yesterday political activists (labour of course) were taxied to where the conservatives were campaigning.
Now I have no problem at all with the man in the street heckling politicians to get their point over....but when some rich left wing moneybags sets up to send thugs to the hustings....then to me that is where it all goes horribly wrong...and it is 'not cricket'....not the fair way of doing things.

cashman · 10-12-2019, 09:57

oh it is, but the BBC are worst of a bad bunch, and i used to love the channel.

Exile on Spencer St · 10-12-2019, 10:33

Interesting view of Corbyn from a young metropolitan.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/1...rty-candidate/

Particularly agreed with this:
And then the EU referendum happened. Saddened though I was by Corbyn’s backing of Remain, and by the overwhelming (but unsurprising) support the party gave to that cause, I was initially able to reconcile my Leave vote with my party allegiance. After all, Labour’s 2017 manifesto promised that Brexit would be carried out. Perhaps foolishly, I believed this pledge, buying Corbyn’s pitch to be a man of principle, bringing honesty into politics.

It is remarkable how much has changed since then. Marx once said that as soon as the bourgeoisie decides democracy is no longer in its political interests, it will shut it down. It looks like he was right. Two-and-a-half years on from the 2017 election, and our parliament, with Labour’s support, has rejected every form of Brexit placed before it, from No Deal to May’s Deal. The Liberal Democrats have made a mockery of their name by backing the revocation of Article 50. And the policy of the now largely middle-class Labour Party is to pursue a second referendum in which it will put its own new Brexit deal, based on close alignment with the EU, against Remain.

Margaret Pilkington · 10-12-2019, 11:33

I have just had another epistle from our erstwhile MP....I do wish that he would get these flyers made out of Matt paper....at least then it might be useful for something.
It has gone straight in the recycling....so much for climate change and ecologically friendly aims then.
Poor bloody tree...cut down to be used for #accyladgonebad propaganda.

monkey hanger · 12-12-2019, 09:50

[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1234355]They won't because they are biased to favour the left.Why do you think so many of the 'luvvies' support Corbyn and his policies.

yes, leave it to those lot and there would be a permanent left wing government in this country and the democrats in power in the usa.