Referendum is a load of crap.!!

[Margaret Pilkington]

Yes...it smacks of 'it's my ball and you aren't playing with it because I am taking it home'.
But then that has been the tone of things all along.
You do not insult friends or allies and expect them to remain friends and allies.
They have treated us like Sh1 t on their shoe....and expect us to keep on taking it.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by cashman

i am not that sure Scotland wants independence from the U.K. that silly cow does but aint sure the majority of scots do. i credit em with more sense than that. to be honest i would be surprised if that was the case.

She equates the recent election success as being the nod to go for another independence vote.....because a lot of Scottish folk voted for the party in the election, does not mean that all those voters want to be independent of the UK.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Guess what?
Spain and Poland are both threatening to quit the EU.....with Spain saying they want 'no more humiliation'.

[Margaret Pilkington]

It would be good if the UK has beaten a path to the door that other countries can follow.

I think that unless the EU makes some very radical changes(which it won't) then it's days are numbered.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Guess what?
Spain and Poland are both threatening to quit the EU.....with Spain saying they want 'no more humiliation'.

And this has not been reported on the BBC.

[Jimmy Clitheroe]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

Guess what?
Spain and Poland are both threatening to quit the EU.....with Spain saying they want 'no more humiliation'.

I actually think France may well be next. The country has the highest level of public spending against it's GDP in the EU, the Gilet Jaunes are doing their bit and Marine Le Pen (of the Front Nationale) coould become president. All the recipes for some serious unrest and desire for change.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Jimmy, there is nothing I would like to see more than France leaving the EU.
Then the house of cards would fall.

The EU has beaten sovereign countries into submission (Greece, they helicoptered in a technocrat government to do the work of the EU, similarly in Italy)by political and fiscal means rather than bullets and tanks....and it seems like although Germany lost the war, they have used their will and the power of a soppsed trading organisation to ensure they make the rules(via Brussels of course)...or at least that is how it looked to me.

Spain and Poland are being told that their judiciary have to bow to the ECJ and are not happy about relinquishing primacy of their courts....they see this(rightly) as a loss of sovereignty.....maybe these countries are waking up to the devious ways of the EU.

[cashman]

i would be very pleased if the whole CORRUPT shebang collapsed.

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

And this has not been reported on the BBC.

Can't really expect Al Beeb, the uk cheerleader for the rotten eu to denigrate their masters, the expression "Don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes to mind & to be honest I wouldn't expect anything less from the "Brussels Bullsh'ting Co-operative".

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by cashman

i would be very pleased if the whole CORRUPT shebang collapsed.

Slowly, slowly, catchy Monkey! I think that the the end of the eu scam, as it presently is has been rumbled & in the not to distant future there will be major change if not outright dissolution of the cesspool.


Sensible nations will go back to trading with each other with their own currencies, as it once was & it worked well enough then & should do again. And all the would be Napoleons & Adolfs will be sent scuttling back under their cruddy rocks to skulk & sulk.

Oh & the Gargoyle Verhofstadt can crawl back up his drainpipe & re-take his rightful position on his Church corner!

[Jimmy Clitheroe]

It will take longer to recover from the Fourth Reich than it did from the Third.

I wonder what the response would have been by the EU to Britain had this country 'invited' a million Hong Kong citizens (who are generally industrious and law abiding) to escape the despotism of China as opposed to the rabble (who are freeloading ingrates hell bent on abusing and destroying our way of life) that Merkel invited ? I bet the UK would have been vilified and had penalties imposed by the EU.

[monkey hanger]

Originally Posted by cashman

i would be very pleased if the whole CORRUPT shebang collapsed.

they,ll just re brand it as something different but will be actually the same. U.S.E.R. comes to mind especially with the initials. union of servile european republics.

[Margaret Pilkington]

Originally Posted by monkey hanger

they,ll just re brand it as something different but will be actually the same. U.S.E.R. comes to mind especially with the initials. union of servile european republics.

I would hope not....fool us once shame on you, fool us twice and shame on us.
I think the populations will be wiser a second time around.
The bait on the hook of this bamboozlement was trade.
I don't think that one can be used again

The fact that both Spain and Poland are questioning the erosion of their sovereignty by the EU is something that may make other members wake up to the situation.

[Less]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

And all the would be Napoleons & Adolfs will be sent scuttling back under their cruddy rocks to skulk

They will have already made sure they don't lose no matter which way the cookie's hit the fan, golden parachutes in the form of excellent pensions and severance payments will take whatever remains in the EU pot.

By the way, what will happen to our entries in the European lottery?

[Margaret Pilkington]

Less, they will still take our money....but might destroy our lotto numbers.
After all there is going to be one helluva financial black hole to fill....one which Germany and France are in no position to cover....nor do they look likely to be in the foreseeable future.

When it goes ar$e uppards it will release Greece, Italy and Spain.....they need to take back their old currencies, devalue and then they will be able to claw themselves out of the pit dug for them by the EU and the stupid single currency experiment.
For them, it has never been an even playing field.
The EU always knew this but took advantage and that is downright immoral.