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Old 23-06-2016, 13:19   #721
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I ain't voting because it's been 9 months of bull...nowt will change either way. Cameron has 4 years left and nothing is going to change... Peeing into the wind is all I can say,and our local MP sought that , I just hope he goes next election because he's a liar on the Westminster gravy train...shame on you GJ
I can totally understand where you are coming from...but with the greatest respect to you Odders....things WILL NOT change if you do not go out and try to change them by execising your democratic right.
By not voting you are saying that you do not mind if your laws are deteremined in another country........and YOUR VOTE could be the one that tips the balance one way or another.
I am a fine one to talk, as in the past I have spoiled my paper or on odd occasions not voted...but that was because the choice I was offered in General Elections was no choice at all(meaning that all the parties were the same brand of politics).
But this referendum is different.
Yes there has been a lot of hot air spoken, a lot of lies told, a lot of issues fudged...but you have had all this time to do your own independent research...to determine from the information that is out there what kind of future you want for your children and your grand children.......there are only two choices IN(?) or OUT.
A choice between democracy or dictatorship.
But hey ho if that is how you feel.
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Old 23-06-2016, 13:28   #722
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Sorry MargP but I feel I am wasting my time, if after my dinner I have a change of heart I will go to my polling station and vote out, but seriously with all the tit for tat I shyed away as much as possible... I don't care because nothing will change
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Old 23-06-2016, 13:37   #723
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I will not vote because it's pointless, I have better things to do than queuing up for pure nonsense
If voting is pointless then the opinion of a none voter is even more pointless. Don't complain unless your prepared to get off your backside and at the very least vote one way or the other.
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Old 23-06-2016, 13:47   #724
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Sorry MargP but I feel I am wasting my time, if after my dinner I have a change of heart I will go to my polling station and vote out, but seriously with all the tit for tat I shyed away as much as possible... I don't care because nothing will change
I hope you DO have a change of heart, because by voting you are sending a message to the likes of GJ and Tony Blair, John Major,Richard Branson...all those who live lives that are so far removed from the lives that we lead...and the message will be THAT WE MATTER.... that we have an opinion...that we are not cash cows to be l milked of taxes sent to another country(continent) to have them given back to us to make it look as though we are getting some kind of benefit.......it IS NOT a benefit if you have paid taxes to get it.

I really can see how the politicians and the media have given people Referendum Fatigue...but it really is an important issue and you should be putting your opinion into the pot by voting.
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Old 23-06-2016, 13:56   #725
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Thing is if leave does win the day, the likelyhood is Cameron @ Osborne will be dumped, whilst there is arseholes on both sides, that alone to me is worth voting oer.
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Old 23-06-2016, 14:07   #726
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Sorry MargP but I feel I am wasting my time, if after my dinner I have a change of heart I will go to my polling station and vote out, but seriously with all the tit for tat I shyed away as much as possible... I don't care because nothing will change

Oh yes....and we desperately need your OUT vote.
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Old 23-06-2016, 14:51   #727
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Seems there has been a mass shooting in a German Cinema, perhaps we will find out who is behind it when VOTING has finished? wouldn't be a big shock at all, if that were to be the case.
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Old 23-06-2016, 15:43   #728
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The mater and I voted this morning. It's a secret vote, so I won't tell you that I voted out.
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Old 23-06-2016, 16:12   #729
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I wonder how many times those that take your voting card hear "ip dip dog.sh..." or "eeny meeny miny mo" coming from the booths....

My vote is secret too. So secret that even I don't know what it is yet ...
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Old 23-06-2016, 17:09   #730
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The people that I have met up with during the course of today did not seem to need to resort to that sort of nursery rhyme to make their decision......and I have spoken to quite a few.
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Old 23-06-2016, 17:36   #731
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The people that I have met up with during the course of today did not seem to need to resort to that sort of nursery rhyme to make their decision......and I have spoken to quite a few.
Perhaps yeh spoke to sensible people not the braindead?
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Old 23-06-2016, 19:18   #732
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All I can say is "good on yer!" all those who've made the effort, win/lose at least you tried to bring about a change & that alone deserves thanks. As to the abstainers & remainers, if we're enmeshed in the deepening mire & our liberties further curtailed, don't go bitching about it as you were the root of the problem!
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Old 23-06-2016, 19:43   #733
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Well after much serious thought, i have come to the conclusion that the party i have always supported (and so has Paris) have completely ignored the wishes of the majority of their voters? the arrogance of them is astounding to me,
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Old 23-06-2016, 20:00   #734
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I will not vote because it's pointless, I have better things to do than queuing up for pure nonsense

I was first entitled to vote in 1968 when I reached my 21st bithday, I have voted in every election both national and regional ever since, it at least allows me to put my opinion forward in any discussion, debate etc; what I cannot stand is anyone spouting about this is wrong or that is wrong, when they cannot even be bothered to get off their backsides and put a cross on a piece of paper.
If you are not prepared to vote, then you are not entitled to an opinion. End of story.
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Old 23-06-2016, 20:02   #735
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By the way I am now eight months away from my 70th birthday
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