Right to Buy Council houses

[Tealeaf]

Originally Posted by g jones

PRS private rented sector. Sorry

You're forgiven. But next time you're in detention, London, thursday night.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

A french bloke I met made £80,000 selling his council flat that he bought for £36,000 then he went back to France with the money!

Well that was money well spent then

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Tealeaf

You're forgiven. But next time you're in detention, London, thursday night.

There in detention every night Tealeaf, ask Ken Moss and CS they watch them on the Parliamentary Channel

[MargaretR]

Originally Posted by cmonstanley

or if you bought one and the biggest bunch of numpties moved next door and you were stuck there

The worst neighbours I ever had were owner/occupiers.
At least housing associations have procedures to deal with anti social behaviour.

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well that was money well spent then

What was the right to buy discount before Prescott reduced it by half?

[Mancie]

When introduced the right to buy was seen as a great leap for working families.. I have friends that bought good council owned houses in the mid 80's paying a mortgage that was near enough the same as the rent they already paid, and it transformed their lives.
The problem was always going to be that when the "good" or best housing had been bought up the councils were left with the not so good... this, along with the disgraceful regulations imposed by Thatcher that any money made from council house sales could not be used to build new homes resulted in what we have today...not enough council housing and no money in the coffers to build new homes.

[Ken Moss]

Originally Posted by jaysay

There in detention every night Tealeaf, ask Ken Moss and CS they watch them on the Parliamentary Channel

Nah mate, Thursday is quiz night at The Mill Tavern in Higher Walton, been presenting that for 11 years.

My questions are slightly easier....

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Ken Moss

Nah mate, Thursday is quiz night at The Mill Tavern in Higher Walton, been presenting that for 11 years.

My questions are slightly easier....

Higher Walton, nice neck of the woods that

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by Mancie

When introduced the right to buy was seen as a great leap for working families.. I have friends that bought good council owned houses in the mid 80's paying a mortgage that was near enough the same as the rent they already paid, and it transformed their lives.
The problem was always going to be that when the "good" or best housing had been bought up the councils were left with the not so good... this, along with the disgraceful regulations imposed by Thatcher that any money made from council house sales could not be used to build new homes resulted in what we have today...not enough council housing and no money in the coffers to build new homes.

What was the reduction that you got? Was it 40% reduction on the price? so if it was worth £100,000 you got it for, £60,000. That's how people made loads of money - then companies started lending poor people the money to buy - the deal was when it was sold you got a cut and they, the company then owned the house of flat and then rented it out or sold it for a profit! Thatcher's got a lot to answer for!

[DaveinGermany]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

then companies started lending poor people the money to buy - the deal was when it was sold you got a cut and they, the company then owned the house of flat and then rented it out or sold it for a profit! Thatcher's got a lot to answer for!

What utter guff ! Thatcher wasn't responsible for the actions of money lenders & housing agencies making a quick Buck ? She wasn't selling the houses/Homes off it was their owners !

Even our arch Socialist/Laborite/Raging Red Mancie deemed the right to buy (all be it grudgingly as it was a Tory idea) a reasonable thing. No my friend your ire needs pointing at a different scapegoat, but as your leanings & tendencies appear to be of the red kind, this kind of "outburst" can be understood.

There are blinkered fools on all sides of the Political spectrum, be they Blue/Green/Red/Yellow or dayglo pink ! So don't feel singled out, it is just that those who receive the most grief are those who make the most outlandish & least well-thought-out comments

[kestrelx]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

What utter guff ! Thatcher wasn't responsible for the actions of money lenders & housing agencies making a quick Buck ? She wasn't selling the houses/Homes off it was their owners !

Even our arch Socialist/Laborite/Raging Red Mancie deemed the right to buy (all be it grudgingly as it was a Tory idea) a reasonable thing. No my friend your ire needs pointing at a different scapegoat, but as your leanings & tendencies appear to be of the red kind, this kind of "outburst" can be understood.

There are blinkered fools on all sides of the Political spectrum, be they Blue/Green/Red/Yellow or dayglo pink ! So don't feel singled out, it is just that those who receive the most grief are those who make the most outlandish & least well-thought-out comments

Maybe but it was her and her government that allowed people to buy counil houses at a reduced price - as I have stated there was a discount of about 40% (not sure of exact amount, but it was enough to make a profit) off the full price that right to buy tenants got. This was the government who allowed this to happen. Latter on when Labour got in John Prescott lowered the amount so that it wasn't so easy for people to make a profit from buying and then selling a council house. This is fact mate! People bought council houses at knock down prices! Courtesy of the Thatcher Government!

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

What utter guff ! Thatcher wasn't responsible for the actions of money lenders & housing agencies making a quick Buck ? She wasn't selling the houses/Homes off it was their owners !

Even our arch Socialist/Laborite/Raging Red Mancie deemed the right to buy (all be it grudgingly as it was a Tory idea) a reasonable thing. No my friend your ire needs pointing at a different scapegoat, but as your leanings & tendencies appear to be of the red kind, this kind of "outburst" can be understood.

And so those who oppose tory polocies that have destroyed all sense of community are to be labled as "Socialist/Laborite/Raging Reds"..this is a typical statement for those who think of themselves as "middle of the road" sensible types, and they must be right, because by their mind they know the best for this country is a tory government ... simple as that Dave?

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by kestrelx

Maybe but it was her and her government that allowed people to buy counil houses at a reduced price - as I have stated there was a discount of about 40% (not sure of exact amount, but it was enough to make a profit) off the full price that right to buy tenants got. This was the government who allowed this to happen. Latter on when Labour got in John Prescott lowered the amount so that it wasn't so easy for people to make a profit from buying and then selling a council house. This is fact mate! People bought council houses at knock down prices! Courtesy of the Thatcher Government!

If the income from sales of council housing had been placed into a fund that could have been used to build good new community housing then it would have been a good policey.. but Thatcher banned councils from building new council homes with this money... the tories did not and still don't believe in social housing.. we ended up again with working families and even the armed forces paying high rents for below stantard homes...I'm getting fed up of saying this but It will all happen again when the tories bring in the every ten years review that rent paying council families will have to go through.

[garinda]

The right to buy scheme would have been acceptable if the monies raised were used to carry on building new social housing stock.

It wasn't, and there is very little new housing being built, therefore the stock is dwindling, and it's unacceptable.

[andrewb]

Originally Posted by Mancie

If the income from sales of council housing had been placed into a fund that could have been used to build good new community housing then it would have been a good policey.. but Thatcher banned councils from building new council homes with this money... the tories did not and still don't believe in social housing.. we ended up again with working families and even the armed forces paying high rents for below stantard homes...I'm getting fed up of saying this but It will all happen again when the tories bring in the every ten years review that rent paying council families will have to go through.

The Thatcher Government did build more council housing than the Blair and Brown Governments combined. Lets not allow that to get in the way of a good rant about Thatcher though, eh Mancie.