Right to Buy Council houses - Page 4

cmonstanley · 08-11-2010, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Ken Moss

No matter who came up with the quote (I must admit to being ignorant of Mrs Thatcher's original) it's the common sense approach in Hyndburn. We simply don't have the money to launch a social house building scheme.

The council need to look at the resources it already has in the borough rather than trying to be something it's not and bankrupting itself. Landlords need regulating and empty properties should be brought under the wing of the council.

agree with you %100 percent 1 house empty brought our street down and brought down house prices.i dont know how it laid empty for 10 years

we complained to the council non stop and all they did was get the landlord to board up the windows and doors.

DaveinGermany · 08-11-2010, 18:46

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Originally Posted by Mancie

All this Labour/Tory stuff makes no difference to me..

Ah but it does ! If it didn't you wouldn't be so vocal & aggressive in your defence of labour policies or any perceived slight to your party of choice. As to "wrong un's" they are in all walks of life & all professions, but more notably in politics as they are constantly in the public eye, they are also in all parties no one party has the monopoly, but some are more prominent than others.

Still the point of this thread was :-

BBC News - MSPs vote to end 'right to buy' council houses

And all the arguing on here becomes moot when you read the title properly

MSP'S meaning Scotland !

Neil · 08-11-2010, 18:57

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

MSP'S meaning Scotland !

Where?

Mancie · 08-11-2010, 19:09

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

Ah but it does ! If it didn't you wouldn't be so vocal & aggressive in your defence of labour policies or any perceived slight to your party of choice. As to "wrong un's" they are in all walks of life & all professions, but more notably in politics as they are constantly in the public eye, they are also in all parties no one party has the monopoly, but some are more prominent than others.

Still the point of this thread was :-

BBC News - MSPs vote to end 'right to buy' council houses

And all the arguing on here becomes moot when you read the title properly

MSP'S meaning Scotland !

Well no more or less of your support of the present government...seems I don't like the tories but you do..so there could be a conflict of opinions going on here

DaveinGermany · 08-11-2010, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Neil

Where?

That lumpy bit stuck on above Carlisle M6 straight up ! You know Haggis, thistles, men in Skirts, Wembley turf stealer's, them Scots & that Scotland. Ask Spugs he'll give you some choice words & then maybe directions.

Gordon Booth · 08-11-2010, 19:13

DaveinGermany put up the BBCs info on MSPs 'right to buy' vote.
I know the Scots like their castles but it says 'The Government said its 3 year £1.5bn investment scheme would deliver about 2,000 new AFFORDABLE homes'. That's £750,000 per home!! Affordable to who? The English taxpayer who subsidises them? No wonder we can't afford to build any here. What on earth are they building up there? A defensive line of 'Council Castles' ready for when they declare Independance?

cmonstanley · 08-11-2010, 19:25

most people i know dont want independence and alex salmond and his cronies in holyrood are corrupt and living on borrowed time

the union has been good for scotland england wales and northern ireland

DaveinGermany · 08-11-2010, 19:32

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Originally Posted by Mancie

Well no more or less of your support of the present government...seems I don't like the tories but you do..so there could be a conflict of opinions going on here

If you take a look at things I've said the Coalition should at least have a chance to see if they can put UK to rights, how does that equate to me liking Tories ? The only conflict is via your determination to provoke one Mancie.

This is supposed to be about Public housing or lack of it due to it being sold off over the last 30 years, by VARIOUS GOVERNMENTS ! I believe there is a thread already running with the aim of provocation "Reasons to hate the Tories !" there you can avail yourself to your hearts content.

The reason you may misunderstand my views is because I like to play Devil's advocate. If someone should post a blatantly inflammatory comment a counter comment ensues forcing a debate, hopefully this then leads to well thought out, informative & factual, counter claim which has the effect of informing & educating others to things they may not have known.

A little learning is a dangerous thing;
drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring:
there shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
and drinking largely sobers us again.

Neil · 09-11-2010, 08:50

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany

That lumpy bit stuck on above Carlisle M6 straight up ! You know Haggis, thistles, men in Skirts, Wembley turf stealer's, them Scots & that Scotland. Ask Spugs he'll give you some choice words & then maybe directions.

Its ok I know the way, I am going on Thursday

jaysay · 09-11-2010, 09:46

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Originally Posted by Neil

Its ok I know the way, I am going on Thursday

You should be so unlucky

g jones · 10-11-2010, 00:34

Labours policy locally is to build/provide more council houses. The costs should be covered if it is run properly. Our commitment is first of all to sheltered housing for the elderly. The current group of councillors of course may decide that times are challenging and it is difficult.

The rented housing sector should be provided with choice, quality and cost in mind and only social housing can deliver these three objectives in my view.

garinda · 10-11-2010, 05:33

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Originally Posted by g jones

Labours policy locally is to build/provide more council houses. The costs should be covered if it is run properly. Our commitment is first of all to sheltered housing for the elderly. The current group of councillors of course may decide that times are challenging and it is difficult.

The rented housing sector should be provided with choice, quality and cost in mind and only social housing can deliver these three objectives in my view.

...and of course, our councils desire to improve the private renting sector in Hyndburn, by introducing the Selective Licensing scheme, won't be helped by this.

'In this weekends Accrington Observer (3 September) on page 17 an organisation called Hyndburn Landlords are claiming that HBC may have failed to consult local landlords as prescribed by the guidelines set out in the Housing Act 2004 part 3.'

'They are attempting to have the scheme reviewed leading to a reduction in the area's that have been designated for the licensing of private landlords.'
Graham Jones MP: Hyndburn Landlords threaten the pending Landlord Licensing Scheme (1 Oct)

(Sorry for quoting your blog Graham. I too read about their challenge in the press, but couldn't easily find the story on a newspaper website.)

We did have a local landlord as a member of Accy Web, but he seems to have been silent recently. After making his opposition to the scheme known in this thread.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...rds-52620.html

g jones · 10-11-2010, 17:23

Moderating private landlords behaviour still leaves £90pw+ housing as opposed to £60pw Ex-LA and £80pw HA.

It still leaves housing not meeting the decent homes standard. Still leaves all the houses in the inner urban area and still leaves the market with little variety, such as elderly.

harwood red · 12-11-2010, 00:51

as I work for a housing association I can tell you anyone who was living in their council home has kept their right to buy, anyone who became a tenant after the stock transfer to a housing association have the right to acquire

the easy explanation of the difference is the right to buy discounts are better and the right to acquire are fixed discounts and its not as desirable to buy under the right to acquire. Plus you have to wait lot longer before you can resell.

Personally I believe if you have lived in your home for over 20 years then you should have the right to buy it but only if the person who's name is on the rent book can get a mortgage (from reputable company) in their own name and not use these iffy companies or borrow from family as we see in many elderly tenant's cases.

As for tory vs labour, we are now seeing massive cut backs being introduced on affordable new buildss, hmmm now what govt do we have??

Mancie · 22-11-2010, 23:09

If anyone had any doubts on the tories idealistic determination to destroy the last 60yrs of social/council housing .. this is what they are doing.
BBC News - Reforms 'won't chase people out of homes', says Shapps.. move into a council home and pay rent (pay rent not handouts) for your new home you could be evicted after 2 years.. how much lower will this mob go in thier quest to make the less well off working people of this country pay for the recession when high profile tories say "we've never had it so good" ?