russia

[madmal_1]

whats happening now with another coldwar brrrrr

[mani]

sabre-rattling by george w bush

i wonder the need for a missile defence system for the usa and europe in such times

esp the "main enemies" of the world seemed to be using less discreet weapons than missiles. and the fact that iran doesnt have a missle that can reach europe blows usa's arguements for the system to b put in place

[davo69]

at last some one who stands up to the biggest dictators in the world good for the russians

[bullseyebarb]

As usual, failure to recognize who the real enemy is. The Russians never stopped targeting Europe, (or the U.S), with their missiles. Now headed by Putin, (former KGB), they have imposed a tight control on political life, allowed the state seizure of private assets held by political opponents, threatened to cut off energy to former Soviet satellites, blockaded the Estonian embassy in Moscow and refused to cooperate with a British police investigation into a murder committed by Russian agents in London. Iran, (with assistance from Russia), has in the past year overcome stumbling blocks in its long range missile system. They now have the Shahab 3 and Shahab 4. Won't be long before they improve even more and begin targeting Europe.

[SPUGGIE J]

Dosnt matter how warm nations are to each other there will always be a niggling doubt. The way things are going at the moment others will benifit from this unease and chilling of relations between the big 2. This will run and run in circles until they eventually see sense before it goes too far.

[cashman]

why should the USA build missle bases wherever they wish and the russians cant bullseye? what makes you n the brits so superior? it beats the hell out of me.

[Mancie]

Bring back 007 Sean Connery..he'd soon sort out them Ruskies!

[garinda]

Bring back the Czar.

[panther]

they say they will aim the missles at europe!!
he should be aiming them the other way towards bush !

[steeljack]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

As usual, failure to recognize who the real enemy is. The Russians never stopped targeting Europe, (or the U.S), with their missiles. Now headed by Putin, (former KGB), they have imposed a tight control on political life, allowed the state seizure of private assets held by political opponents, threatened to cut off energy to former Soviet satellites, blockaded the Estonian embassy in Moscow and refused to cooperate with a British police investigation into a murder committed by Russian agents in London. Iran, (with assistance from Russia), has in the past year overcome stumbling blocks in its long range missile system. They now have the Shahab 3 and Shahab 4. Won't be long before they improve even more and begin targeting Europe.

In response to Tokyo, opps sorry Washington Rose, the reasons the Russians are the bad guys again is that G Bush's "War on Terror" has been proven to be a complete falacy and the powers that be who control American foriegn policy have decided that the "American Empire" needs to stir up public feeling about a new threat to justify the spending of billions of $$s on the military. Eisenhower in his farewell address warned America about the need to keep an eye on the industrial MilitaryDefense complex , something which we have forgotten , and now we are reaping the results.
Re. Putin being ex KGB , I seem to remember one of the jobs the father of the current President held prior to being Vice President and subsequently President was head of the CIA, (seems odd his offspring never held a previous post in National/Federal Govt. prior to his election, maybe a lack of mental qualifications dis-qualified him) .
History prooves one thing , every 'empire' has had the need to keep expanding , otherwise it stagnates and collapses on itself
The reasons the Iranians have the Shahab 3 and 4 missile systems are purely defensive, seems to me if Pakistan can have US supplied nuclear technology (the Islamic bomb) surley the Iranians can be allowed the similar technology, One important thing to remember about the Iranian revolution in late 78/early 79 is that only one foriegner died during the whole upheaval and he was a CIA operative so on the whole it was quite peaceful except to those who were members of the Savak .

[mallard]

This world will end up with a big bang or something its all for power

[davo69]

if not power oil thats why we are involved in a war we wont win

[Less]

Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

As usual, failure to recognize who the real enemy is. The Russians never stopped targeting Europe, (or the U.S), with their missiles. Now headed by Putin, (former KGB), they have imposed a tight control on political life, allowed the state seizure of private assets held by political opponents, threatened to cut off energy to former Soviet satellites, blockaded the Estonian embassy in Moscow and refused to cooperate with a British police investigation into a murder committed by Russian agents in London. Iran, (with assistance from Russia), has in the past year overcome stumbling blocks in its long range missile system. They now have the Shahab 3 and Shahab 4. Won't be long before they improve even more and begin targeting Europe.

You often come on here talking pro-American rubbish, but you never seem to be able to see that it is the very fact that you and others like you never see the other mans point of view that causes most of the problems. The Russians are like the rest of us, they bring their children up hoping they will have a better life than their parents did, they are not evil baby killing machines, they are ordinary human beings and they want the best they can have in their world, why should America need the early warning system if they hold, Such high principles as 'Peace on Earth and good will to all men'

Your's is supposed to be a mainly Christian society and yet you seem to have forgotten that Christianity is supposed to be built on forgiveness rather than revenge.

At the moment wanting to place these 'early warning', systems seems provocative rather than helpful, perhaps it's a case of lets get the revenge in before the other man hits?

[maxwell silver]

This being Bushs' last term in office i would'nt put anything past him & his cronies before he goes.When the American people wake up & vote back in a Democratic government(thats if it's not another rigged election) 2 decades of bridge building between Russia & the west will have to start all over again as Bush demolishes it before he goes.The U.S government is proberbly the biggest threat to world peace there is,and Bush now has such illusions of granduer he thinks the U.S can impose its will on any country they wish(though obviously,with a man with such limited intelliegence as him,others are pulling the strings).He is a tyrannical leader of the free world who intends to rule through fear.

[andrewb]

I think Russia have a very valid point. They can't just sit there while governments start erecting anti-missile systems literally just outside their country. There needs to be a strategic balance of power, because I don't trust Bush or any leader for that matter, to have such enormous power.