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View Poll Results: Is Same Sex Marriage a step to far?
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23-03-2012, 19:00
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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You suggest that only Muslim people are religious in today's society.
I know many people who are religious in several faiths and I would say that religion plays a very important part in their lives.
I do wonder if the watering down of Christian beliefs by both the church and government is having a direct impact on our society.
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I totally agree on your latter point.
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23-03-2012, 19:15
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
Am I missing something?
How are 'churches watering down Christian beliefs'?
There might be the odd, loony left vicar, who says he doesn't believe in God, but religion has always been attractive to those who are mad as a box of holy frogs.
There are fewer and fewer people actually attending churches, but there's a marked increase in religious fundamentalism, for those Christian churches who are bucking this trend.
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23-03-2012, 19:19
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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Am I missing something?
How are 'churches watering down Christian beliefs'?
There might be the odd, loony left vicar, who says he doesn't believe in God, but religion has always been attractive to those who are mad as a box of holy frogs.
There are fewer and fewer people actually attending churches, but there's a marked increase in religious fundamentalism, for those Christian churches who are bucking this trend.
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The current, soon to retire Archbishop of Canterbury, noted for his fence sitting, is a prime example of why people are abandoning the Christian faith in droves. Not to mentioned Accrington's own loony ex-vicar, Kevin Logan.
I rest my case.
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23-03-2012, 19:37
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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The current, soon to retire Archbishop of Canterbury, noted for his fence sitting, is a prime example of why people are abandoning the Christian faith in droves. Not to mentioned Accrington's own loony ex-vicar, Kevin Logan.
I rest my case.
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Is 'fence sitting' really responsible for 'watering down of Christian beliefs', which Neil said, and you agreed with?
As the Bible says, in Matthew 7:1, 'Judge not, lest ye be judged.'
Which could be a proclamation issued from a position, a'top a fence.
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23-03-2012, 19:46
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
If Jesus were around today he'd probably be campaiging to legalise polygamy.
In order to marry the twelve people who were nearest, and dearest to him.
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23-03-2012, 20:42
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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The current, soon to retire Archbishop of Canterbury, noted for his fence sitting, is a prime example of why people are abandoning the Christian faith in droves. Not to mentioned Accrington's own loony ex-vicar, Kevin Logan.
I rest my case.
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I would agree with one point.
Standards of morality do seem to be slipping.
When even the future head of the Church of England makes no attempt to obey the Ten Commandments, being an admitted adulterer.
Indeed, as well as not being able to keep his royal little snake out of Camilla's hidey-hole, he brought the whole concept of being married before the eyes of God into question, by marrying a woman he didn't love, and made false promises to in the house of God, before a congregation of millions.
I think fidelity in marriage gets quite a few mentions in the bible, if I'm not mistaken.
Which is unlikely. Seeing as I attended church at least once a week from birth, in the first couple of decades of my life.
Plus, I was also a Sunday school teacher.
(For my sins.)
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23-03-2012, 22:18
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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Indeed, as well as not being able to keep his royal little snake out of Camilla's hidey-hole
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Why is it that I've always got a mouthful of coffee when I come to classics like that in your posts?
Now I'll have to go and find something to clean the keyboard up.
Karma sent!
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23-03-2012, 22:29
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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I would agree with one point.
Standards of morality do seem to be slipping.
When even the future head of the Church of England makes no attempt to obey the Ten Commandments, being an admitted adulterer.
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Which is why I don't believe he should ever be King. He should have done what the King's of old did and killed her off instead of divorcing her. The Queen, typical woman, was a bit late with her actions
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23-03-2012, 22:30
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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Indeed, as well as not being able to keep his royal little snake out of Camilla's hidey-hole
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He was also in that hidden place, in his evil thoughts, as an essential monthly "sanitary product".
Remember reading all about it on my 40th birthday jaunt to Malaga, in one of those magazines that no-one ever buys and are usually to be found at hairdressers salons.
My friend Andrea, who is a big fan of his, has never recovered from the shock -though recently she has begun to say how wonderful The Prince's Thrust is again... oops sorry The Prince's Trust
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23-03-2012, 22:31
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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Which is why I don't believe he should ever be King. He should have done what the King's of old did and killed her off instead of divorcing her. The Queen, typical woman, was a bit late with her actions
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"Off with her head!"
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23-03-2012, 22:51
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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Which is why I don't believe he should ever be King. He should have done what the King's of old did and killed her off instead of divorcing her. The Queen, typical woman, was a bit late with her actions
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Until fairly recently, when the royal family became all German, and middle class, not many English monarchs took their wedding vows at all seriously, when it came to swearing to remain faithful, to their lawful wedded wife.
Indeed the very creation of the Anglican church, came about because old Henry the VIII didn't take the wedding vows he made before God very seriously, because he couldn't keep it in his breeches for very long, and needed to move on to the nexy wifey.
When it comes to preaching morality, let him without sin cast the first stone.
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23-03-2012, 22:58
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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He was also in that hidden place, in his evil thoughts, as an essential monthly "sanitary product".
Remember reading all about it on my 40th birthday jaunt to Malaga, in one of those magazines that no-one ever buys and are usually to be found at hairdressers salons.
My friend Andrea, who is a big fan of his, has never recovered from the shock -though recently she has begun to say how wonderful The Prince's Thrust is again... oops sorry The Prince's Trust
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Since the Prince of Wales has already announced he won't be called Charles III, on the death of his mother.
Perhaps he might choose the regnal name of King Tampax the First.
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23-03-2012, 22:58
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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When it comes to preaching morality, let him without sin cast the first stone.
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More likely to be flicking gravel.
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23-03-2012, 23:02
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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More likely to be flicking gravel.
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Is that a euphemism?
Like 'tipping the velvet'?
If so, I don't think I've ever done it.
Yet.
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23-03-2012, 23:04
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Re: Same Sex Marriages.
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Indeed the very creation of the Anglican church, came about because old Henry the VIII didn't take the wedding vows he made before God very seriously, because he couldn't keep it in his breeches for very long, and needed to move on to the nexy wifey.
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Would that be the reason Protestants exist today?
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