Same Sex Marriages.

Stumped · 05-03-2012, 18:42

What was Cameron thinking about when he 'came out' in favour of same sex marriages following the condemnation of same by a senior Scottish clergyman? If there is one thing guaranteed to lose the conservative party votes come the next general election, then surely, this has to be it.
Be interesting to see subscribers views on the subject.

Wrighty · 05-03-2012, 18:51

Totally against it me

garinda · 05-03-2012, 18:57

In theory, if people are daft enough, and want to, I think marriage should be available to all, regardless of the gender of the person that you want to carry over the threshold.

However, I also agree that similarly everyone should therefore be able to enter into a civil partnership, if we are to have them.

Equality should apply to all.

Regardless.

As civil partnerships currently give the same legal status as marriage, I really don't see why this is a pressing issue for Cameron.

I disagree that it's a vote loser, most people nowadays don't give a stuff, it just seems a battle the Prime Minister doesn't really need to fight right now.

garinda · 05-03-2012, 19:02

I think the poll options could have been worded better.

Should have been kept to two.

Agree/disagree.

Live and let live, and stick to civil partnerships, simply confuses the question, as to whether marriage should be available to everyone.

Less · 05-03-2012, 19:04

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Originally Posted by garinda

I disagree that it's a vote loser, most people nowadays don't give a stuff, it just seems a battle the Prime Minister doesn't really need to fight right now.

I was with you all the way until the above, I think you will find that only 95% don't give a stuff.

garinda · 05-03-2012, 19:06

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Originally Posted by Less

I was with you all the way until the above, I think you will find that only 95% don't give a stuff.

Oh thank you.

That really was a laugh out loud belly laugh.

Stumped · 05-03-2012, 19:12

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Originally Posted by garinda

I think the poll options could have been worded better.

Should have been kept to two.

Agree/disagree.

Live and let live, and stick to civil partnerships, simply confuses the question, as to whether marriage should be available to everyone.

You are probably right re the poll options, but I was just canvassing opinion to see if society really has changed as much as the media would lead us to believe.

jaysay · 05-03-2012, 19:23

I think we've come a long way in the last 60 years, after all people were jailed for being homosexual in the fifties, until somebody saw a bit of sense and said hey hang on a minute here, we're jailing people for something they have no control over, as I've said before its not a lifestyle choice. To me if gays want to get hitched, carry on its live and let live

mobertol · 05-03-2012, 19:33

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Originally Posted by garinda

agree/disagree.

Live and let live, as to whether marriage should be available to everyone.

Have to disagree -marriage should be abolished -live and let live!

( My own life sentence is up 19th March...)

flashy · 05-03-2012, 19:36

wooooaaaahhhhh mods please can you delete my vote, i voted agree cos i didn't see the 'step too far' bit

i think same sex marriages SHOULD be able to go ahead, a couple no matter of which gender should be allowed to be happy as a married couple

garinda · 05-03-2012, 19:38

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Originally Posted by Stumped

You are probably right re the poll options, but I was just canvassing opinion to see if society really has changed as much as the media would lead us to believe.

Yes, but it makes it harder to work out any results.

The way you've done it, you have one option for those who don't agree with same sex marriage, and three voting options for those who aren't necessarily opposed to it.

When we've had similar polls in the past, the results were that the majority of people on here don't give two hoots what other people do in bed, or with whom.

garinda · 05-03-2012, 19:41

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Originally Posted by flashy

wooooaaaahhhhh mods please can you delete my vote, i voted agree cos i didn't see the 'step too far' bit

i think same sex marriages SHOULD be able to go ahead, a couple no matter of which gender should be allowed to be happy as a married couple

I agree hun.

The wording doesn't make it clear.

Do you agree with same sex marriage?

Yes.

No.

Unsure.

That's all it needs.

garinda · 05-03-2012, 19:43

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Originally Posted by mobertol

Have to disagree -marriage should be abolished -live and let live!

( My own life sentence is up 19th March...)

Just when I was about to go down on one knee in front of you.

Oh well.

I'll just have to put the ring back in the cracker.

mobertol · 05-03-2012, 19:47

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Originally Posted by garinda

Just when I was about to go down on one knee in front of you.

Oh well.

I'll just have to put the ring back in the cracker.

Oh, well will just have to wait till the next Leap year -4 years hence.

One might consider living in sin in the meantime...

garinda · 05-03-2012, 19:47

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I think we've come a long way in the last 60 years, after all people were jailed for being homosexual in the fifties, until somebody saw a bit of sense and said hey hang on a minute here, we're jailing people for something they have no control over, as I've said before its not a lifestyle choice. To me if gays want to get hitched, carry on its live and let live

Men were jailed in the eighties, when they were in consensual relationships, and one of them was nineteen, and the other happened to be twenty one.

The nineteen year old was considered a minor.

Even though he could have married a woman, without parental consent.