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19-08-2008, 12:34
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School play pictures
We've all seen or heard it, no pictures allowed at school plays/sports days etc
yet, why are the BBC allowed to film/show a 14 year old lad in his swimming trunks competing in the olympics?
Seems to smack of double standards to me.........
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19-08-2008, 12:40
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Re: School play pictures
When I attended my daughters Play I was sat on the front row like a Japanese tourist!
Also got loads at Sports Day
The school never commented on it and I gave them a copy of all the pics
I know on admission of school tho that you sign something to say it is ok to
take pictures of your child and them be on the website and things
Don't know how they get around that tho when they put on a play,
can't exclude children from events who are not allowed to have their photo taken
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19-08-2008, 12:58
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by entwisi
We've all seen or heard it, no pictures allowed at school plays/sports days etc
yet, why are the BBC allowed to film/show a 14 year old lad in his swimming trunks competing in the olympics?
Seems to smack of double standards to me.........
Thoughts etc?
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Not forgetting the young girls on the beam, floor exercises etc.
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19-08-2008, 13:03
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Re: School play pictures
Careful Jambutty, you'll be having plod knocking on your door mate!
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19-08-2008, 13:13
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by entwisi
Careful Jambutty, you'll be having plod knocking on your door mate!
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Plod can knock on my door any time he likes. He won’t find anything untoward if he searched for a thousand years. Although some bright plod (that has to be an oxymoron) might think that my red poppy garden is suspect. The red poppy is synonymous with Opium.
I was just pointing out that there are also young girls competing in the Olympics.
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19-08-2008, 13:40
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Re: School play pictures
I know old chap, was just trying to point out how silly the whole thing is.
Re the red poppy, I have one on the front of my car for an entirely different 'meaning'. Starnge just how tthe same flower can represent such opposing ideologies.
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19-08-2008, 13:59
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by entwisi
I know old chap, was just trying to point out how silly the whole thing is.
Re the red poppy, I have one on the front of my car for an entirely different 'meaning'. Starnge just how tthe same flower can represent such opposing ideologies.
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Without the Opium Poppy there would be no Heroin, which is a good thing but there would also be no Morphine or other drugs that put a patient to sleep for operations, which is not so good.
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19-08-2008, 15:19
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by entwisi
We've all seen or heard it, no pictures allowed at school plays/sports days etc
yet, why are the BBC allowed to film/show a 14 year old lad in his swimming trunks competing in the olympics?
Seems to smack of double standards to me.........
Thoughts etc?
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As Accylass has said, when children start school parents are asked to sign a form saying they agree to photographs of the child being taken.
If all parents in school signed yes then you would be able to take as many photos as you like.
If a parent has said no to this then you will not be able to photograph a group of children with that child in it. If it's a play you will be able to take photos of your child and other children afterwards but not with that child in the group. Use of dvd cameras to record the play will not be allowed if one parent has not given permission.
If a parent has said no in most cases there is a genuine reason such as not wanting an ex partner to know their whereabouts.
If the child were to appear in the Observer in school colours it is obvious which area they are in and even which school they go to.
Even with personal photos/dvds you never know who is showing them to who.
The aim is to protect children who may be at risk from a violent or abusive person finding them and the person who currently looks after them.
The child in the olympics is obviously not in this situation and has had permission to have his photo taken.
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19-08-2008, 15:37
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by Lilly
As Accylass has said, when children start school parents are asked to sign a form saying they agree to photographs of the child being taken.
If all parents in school signed yes then you would be able to take as many photos as you like.
If a parent has said no to this then you will not be able to photograph a group of children with that child in it. If it's a play you will be able to take photos of your child and other children afterwards but not with that child in the group. Use of dvd cameras to record the play will not be allowed if one parent has not given permission.
If a parent has said no in most cases there is a genuine reason such as not wanting an ex partner to know their whereabouts.
If the child were to appear in the Observer in school colours it is obvious which area they are in and even which school they go to.
Even with personal photos/dvds you never know who is showing them to who.
The aim is to protect children who may be at risk from a violent or abusive person finding them and the person who currently looks after them.
The child in the olympics is obviously not in this situation and has had permission to have his photo taken.
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So does that really, really, make sense?
We all wander through life with stupid restrictions put on us by so called equality and privacy law that at one time would have been dealt with sensibly by all people and no fuss and bother.
Now, just a parent with a camera is deemed some sort of imaginary threat isn't it time we got back to reality and admitted that care of children is a priority, but most people taking a picture with your child in it aren't even interested, they just wanted a memory of their own little cherub so the idiots should butt out!
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19-08-2008, 15:41
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by Less
So does that really, really, make sense?
We all wander through life with stupid restrictions put on us by so called equality and privacy law that at one time would have been dealt with sensibly by all people and no fuss and bother.
Now, just a parent with a camera is deemed some sort of imaginary threat isn't it time we got back to reality and admitted that care of children is a priority, but most people taking a picture with your child in it aren't even interested, they just wanted a memory of their own little cherub so the idiots should butt out!
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Hey, I didn't make these rules.
You still can take a photo of your cherub and their cherubic friends.
The only cherub you can't photograph is the cherub whose parents haven't given permission.
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Last edited by Lilly; 19-08-2008 at 15:47.
Reason: typo!
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19-08-2008, 15:46
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Grand Wizard Of The Inner Clique
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by Lilly
Hey, I didn't make these rules.
You still can take a photo of your cherub and their cherubic friends.
The only cherub you can't photograph is the cherub who's parents haven't given permission.
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It wasn't you personally I meant, I do realise you are just quoting, I just wish we could go back to a lifetime when a parent, (or anyone), can take their picture without someone accusing them of being wrong, the large majority of piccys we all take are very boring to others and also of no threat to anyone.
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19-08-2008, 15:55
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Re: School play pictures
There are always them few that spoil it for everyone
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19-08-2008, 16:02
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by AccyLass27
There are always them few that spoil it for everyone
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It can feel like that but no-one is trying to spoil it.
I didn't understand either until I met someone in this position but if you were to photograph this person's child and the photo appeared in the paper or if you showed it to someone who knew this person and their child it could result in a violent ex partner finding them.
Currently they are living a peacful happy life together but all this could change if the ex partner found out where they were.
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Old aunts used to come up to me at weddings, poking me in the ribs, cackling and telling me
'You'll be next.' They stopped when I started doing the same to them at funerals.
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19-08-2008, 16:10
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Re: School play pictures
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Originally Posted by Lilly
It can feel like that but no-one is trying to spoil it.
I didn't understand either until I met someone in this position but if you were to photograph this person's child and the photo appeared in the paper or if you showed it to someone who knew this person and their child it could result in a violent ex partner finding them.
Currently they are living a peacful happy life together but all this could change if the ex partner found out where they were.
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Noooooo!
When I made this comment:
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There are always them few that spoil it for everyone
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I meant the paedophiles/violent partners and such
Didn't mean it to sound like I was blaming the parents of them who don't agree to photo's being taken
Last edited by AccyLass; 19-08-2008 at 16:12.
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19-08-2008, 18:38
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Re: School play pictures
I still say its a load of BULLOCKS!!!!! (nice way of spelling it
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