Secret location for drug and alcohol centre - Page 4

Eric · 03-03-2009, 19:29

When all the fuss dies down, I think that the centre will not have the massive negative impact that people fear. There is an OATC (Ontario Addiction Treatment Centre) just around the corner from where I live. A local group, Street Health, has a centre right down town .... and the Hotel Dieu Hospital runs a detox centre downtown ... no major problems at all.

Of course, we all know that the perfect location for most folks is nimby

Bagpuss · 03-03-2009, 19:45

Why would they need planning permission for The Pals Centre, I think Grahams info is correct.

g jones · 03-03-2009, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Why would they need planning permission for The Pals Centre, I think Grahams info is correct.

My information was from the top and comprehensive as the PCT want Councillors to be totally on board to avoid another Peel House.

Another location was discussed but this wasn't it. It is not owned by the PCT so I can't name it as I am sure they would want value for money on the price first. Clearly that is not the Health centre.

The PCT opposed the Health Centre for a variety of reasons.

If they have changed their mind then they have said Councillors will have to approve it and no-one has been told this site.

maxwell silver · 03-03-2009, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Bagpuss

Why would they need planning permission for The Pals Centre, I think Grahams info is correct.

Hopefully they'll need it because this unit won't actually be in the centre but somewhere in the grounds.As many know this place is an over burdened,under staffed shambles as it is.I suppose now when patients use the chemist in the centre they'll be at the back of the queque while the methadone is handed out.Whats wrong with the Acorn?Everytime iv'e had cause to go there it's virtually empty.

MargaretR · 03-03-2009, 20:03

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Originally Posted by maxwell silver

.Whats wrong with the Acorn?Everytime iv'e had cause to go there it's virtually empty.

I agree with that - I think they haven't persuaded many docs to relocate to it - as far as I can see there are signs in reception that only two have.

cashman · 03-03-2009, 20:05

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

I agree with that - I think they haven't persuaded many docs to relocate to it - as far as I can see there are signs in reception that only two have.

there was a couple of locums in yon pre-xmas, would seem the best option to me, always near empty when ya go in.

lindsay ormerod · 03-03-2009, 20:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I wonder if they would be on here if they were in power, after all have you ever seen any input on threads on national government, the only time Jones shows his face on here is when he thinks he can score political points, never gets involved in fighting for his beleaguered parties fortunes at national level does he

Beg to differ there Jaysay, a question was posed and Graham stepped in with an answer, same as in the Twittering thread, AndrewB asked if Greg Pope had signed up for a twittering site and when Greg came on and said No not yet, Andrew had to agree that the twittering site wasn't his preferred tool of communication either!
2 simple straight forward answers, "simples" as Alexsandr Orlov would say!

cashman · 03-03-2009, 20:09

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Originally Posted by lindsay ormerod

Beg to differ there Jaysay, a question was posed and Graham stepped in with an answer, same as in the Twittering thread, AndrewB asked if Greg Pope had signed up for a twittering site and when Greg came on and said No not yet, Andrew had to agree that the twittering site wasn't his preferred tool of communication either!
2 simple straight forward answers, "simples" as Alexsandr Orlov would say!

wrong lindsay, its the torys that are simple, they can't grasp a straight answer.

Taggy · 03-03-2009, 20:26

Guess neither Hynburn Council nor the PCT are capable of calling a Spade a Spade are they??

Best Regards - Taggy

SPUGGIE J · 03-03-2009, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Taggy

Guess neither Hynburn Council nor the PCT are capable of calling a Spade a Spade are they??

Best Regards - Taggy

Both would argue over what a spade was shaped like.

Square peg round hole comes to mind.

emamum · 03-03-2009, 20:56

thats my drs as well cashy

ian1 · 03-03-2009, 21:03

Not that place on corner of nuttall st and welligton st then ?? its been empty since new acorn and pals place opened up ????
ian

entwisi · 03-03-2009, 21:59

so either teh papers ar ewrong, Graham was wrong or we still don't know.

Mmm

papers, has anyone thought of challanging their info based on Grahams post?

Graham, I have no reason(or desire) to distrust you but we have to consider alternatives, could you have been mis informed????

don't know, this is the most scary, the fact that they still don't want us to know says they know its a real issue and ultimately a vote loser in whatever ward it lands........

K.S.H · 03-03-2009, 22:14

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Originally Posted by g jones

it is 25% occupied and growing. However a deal is imminent with a new partner.

Is it PCT

Taggy · 03-03-2009, 22:18

Oh what a tangled web we weave....

I once saw a play about the life of Robert Maxwell, it was called "Lies Have Been Told"

.....dont know why that phrase just came to mind!!

Best Regards - Taggy