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[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Claytonender, that's a little naive to say the least, the press are the press and they will print what they want, as I've said many a time why let the truth get in the way of good storey, the main point of any story can be altered by changing, adding or omitting one word and has been to great effect on many occasions

Yes but there are libel laws in place, to hopefully ensure they only print the factual truth.

If they don't, then they leave themselves open to prosecution, and huge costs.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by garinda

Yes but there are libel laws in place, to hopefully ensure they only print the factual truth.

If they don't, then they leave themselves open to prosecution, and huge costs.

The word allegedly covers a multitude of sins Rindi

[garinda]

Originally Posted by jaysay

The word allegedly covers a multitude of sins Rindi

They're also covered if they print an untruth, if it's a direct quote.

In that case it's the person who's been telling pork pies who's in the do-do.

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by g jones

You make me laugh John! It is much worse than that within the Hyndburn Conservatives.

Under Labour their will be a 'devolution revolution'. The Borough's got talent but The Council just wants to stifle people and keep them down.

A Case in point Graham, yesterday's cabinet meeting

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by g jones

This was the letter myself and Peter signed. Nothing has changed since then. I'll get the usual round of attacks for posting it!.

You are assuming Graham that Peter actually read the letter.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

Under Labour their will be a 'devolution revolution'. The Borough's got talent but The Council just wants to stifle people and keep them down.

I suspect you will find that is not quite as simple as you might at first think

[Bernard Dawson]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Inferiority complex, your out your tree. Labour councillors have a mind of their own, who are you trying to kid, ask George Slynn, he opposed the sale of LCCs homes for the elderly and was deselected after a lifetimes work for your party. I can also remember back in the eighties when I went to a full council meeting and a Labour councillor was agreeing with an opposition amendment, but when it came to the vote he voted with Labour. Some minutes later I was in the gents when this same councillor came in and was talking to PB, who was asking hm why he'd voted the way he had, his answer was priceless, I had no option, we are told how we have to vote, end of.

All political groups jaysay as you well know have group decisions, which are voted on in their respective groups. I think I remember that incident you mention. I can't remember who the councillor was though. It wasn't me.

[cashman]

Originally Posted by Neil

I suspect you will find that is not quite as simple as you might at first think

True, but our magnificent leader obviously is.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Neil

I suspect you will find that is not quite as simple as you might at first think

I know. I take it the devolution revolution passed you by Neil

The devolution revolution I would like to see is completely different to previous failed attempts.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Robert Owen

You are assuming Graham that Peter actually read the letter.

He was verbally briefed by the Managing Director. As the original letter pointed out, The Council must be united on a site following the Peel House debacle.

As Garinda pointed out. The LT comment by The Leader is the opposite to letter he and I signed. Ignorant Populism at best, a downright lie at worst.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

I know. I take it the devolution revolution passed you by Neil

Not quite

Originally Posted by g jones

The devolution revolution I would like to see is completely different to previous failed attempts.

Labour don't do devolution anyway.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Neil

Not quite - Labour don't do devolution anyway.

The Scottish Labour Party might have sympathy with your point. Given Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland have must greater autonomy and Regional Councils were proposed instead of Regional Quango's I can't quite see where your evidence is coming from.

In Hyndburn Labour has pioneered Neighbourhood Management and the public have rejected Area Councils in favour of NM as a model of local democracy. Again I must be missing something because I don't see what you see.

Not picking at you, just saying what I see.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

The Scottish Labour Party might have sympathy with your point. Given Wales, Northern Ireland and Scotland have must greater autonomy and Regional Councils were proposed instead of Regional Quango's I can't quite see where your evidence is coming from.

In Hyndburn Labour has pioneered Neighbourhood Management and the public have rejected Area Councils in favour of NM as a model of local democracy. Again I must be missing something because I don't see what you see.

Not picking at you, just saying what I see.

I just remember LCC recently taking back control of Highways after previously devolving the control to Hyndburn. Am I wrong in thinking Highways was devolved to Hyndburn?

[claytonender]

Originally Posted by Robert Owen

A Case in point Graham, yesterday's cabinet meeting

I think the absolute fiasco at yesterday's cabinet meeting was probably due to Peter not liking which chair you were sat in Bernard.

Come to think of it, Peter probably thought that all four of us should probably have been sat somewhere else in the building other than in the QE room.

Todays reconvened Cabinet was even more of a farce - Peter arrived 5 minutes late and galloped through the other 9 reports of the agenda in the next 5 minutes. If we had wanted to speak on any item - by the time he acknowleged we had our hands up, the meeting would have been 4 or 5 reports further on than.

It really is great seeing democracy at work.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Neil

I just remember LCC recently taking back control of Highways after previously devolving the control to Hyndburn. Am I wrong in thinking Highways was devolved to Hyndburn?

No you are quite right. The reason it was taken back though was it was a failing service. eg. Gullies to be emptied 4 times a year on main roads, once a year elsewhere. None of this was happening.