Senior Tory in racism row - Page 2

Margaret Pilkington · 08-03-2007, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Surely if this thing goes on it needs someone who stands up and says it. From what I've read HE wasn't being the racist, he was reporting what had happened in his experience.

That's how I understood it too........I think everyone gets just a bit twitched about what is, and what isn't racism.......I don't think it is racist to tell the facts....and I think David Cameron was just a tad hasty in moving this chap from the front benches.

andrewb · 08-03-2007, 22:21

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Surely if this thing goes on it needs someone who stands up and says it. From what I've read HE wasn't being the racist, he was reporting what had happened in his experience.

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

That's how I understood it too........I think everyone gets just a bit twitched about what is, and what isn't racism.......I don't think it is racist to tell the facts....and I think David Cameron was just a tad hasty in moving this chap from the front benches.

Couldn't agree more!

cashman · 08-03-2007, 23:42

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Surely if this thing goes on it needs someone who stands up and says it. From what I've read HE wasn't being the racist, he was reporting what had happened in his experience.

couldn,t agree more and it just shows what kind of a leader cameron would make - A HUG A HOODIE, TOE RAG.

garinda · 09-03-2007, 00:20

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Surely if this thing goes on it needs someone who stands up and says it. From what I've read HE wasn't being the racist, he was reporting what had happened in his experience.

Shadow homeland security spokesman Patrick Mercer said he had met "a lot" of "idle and useless" ethnic minority soldiers who used racism as a "cover".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6431005.stm

Sounds a fairly racist statement to me.

chav1 · 09-03-2007, 00:23

probably true there are a lot of people who play the race card and i cant see been in the army making any difference to it been played or not

garinda · 09-03-2007, 00:26

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Originally Posted by chav1

probably true there are a lot of people who play the race card and i cant see been in the army making any difference to it been played or not

Sorry, I must have missed that bit of evidence that proved 'a lot' of ethnic people are 'useless and idle'.

chav1 · 09-03-2007, 00:49

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Originally Posted by garinda

Sorry, I must have missed that bit of evidence that proved 'a lot' of ethnic people are 'useless and idle'.

hey black people can be lazy too its not just white folk you know

WillowTheWhisp · 09-03-2007, 10:16

He's probably met a lot of idle and useless soldiers not from ethnic minorities too. All he was doing was saying that a lot of the ones from ethnic minorities use the plea of racism as an excuse. The white ones probably try to find other excuses.

If he's just telling it like it is how can that make him a racist?

Ianto.W. · 09-03-2007, 13:26

Coloured soldiers have fought with the British Army for centuries why has this PC nonsense just poped up now, anyone who has seved in the forces knows the score it's the same for everyone, as others have said, any sign of weakness regional accents hair colour etc, are all exploited usually by NCOs as it as a rule ceases after basic training and the 'rookies' begin to mature into real soldiers. It is a way of sorting the men from the boys, very over the top making the guy resign.