Serves him right... - Page 2

mani · 07-01-2007, 14:48

but surely the letter of the law shud apply to one and all

if u incite to kill then u incite to kill nah?

surely we're not havin one rule for one and one for another

as for football fans not killing come on who we kiddin?

shakermaker · 07-01-2007, 15:16

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Originally Posted by mani

surely we're not havin one rule for one and one for another

With Britain's justice system?!
Surely not.

LancYorkYankee · 07-01-2007, 22:35

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

So, what do you reckon then, LYY? Send all those uppity, ungrateful Latinos back to where they come from? Only problem is, who's going to do all those lousy jobs that you lot consider yourselves far too grand to sully your delicate WASP fingers with?

I can most certainly assure you Wynie, these WASP fingers have been sullied in more ways then your's on your most laborist day. Whether it be shovelling cow/horse/pig/sheep/chicken manure, working out in the bitterest cold and/or hottest summer days on various and sundry activities, handcutting yearly firewood stores, picking stones digging rocks, burying rocks, handdigging fence posts, slaughtoring pigs/cattle/sheep, having to kill and grind up rats and pigs for Government experiments, "pulling" calves (both alive and dead), cleaning out grain silos manure pens, picking horses hooves, branding/dehorning calves, finally picking every kind of vegetable/fruit/berry, etc., etc..

I could go on but my delicate WASP fingers are quite sore plus I believe I may have broken a nail. I'd put a smiley here but I'm much too ****ed off by you incredibly ingnorant generalization!

And YES, I would definitely sent them back! There are enough legal immigrants and other Americans that are willing to do this work. Even many of the legal "Latinos" are offended by the audacity of this new group of immigrants demamding rights that they had been more than willing to work for.

Enjoy your misconscrued/misinformed high horse Wynie!

Wynonie Harris · 07-01-2007, 23:34

Do forgive my ignorance, LYY. I'm basing my observations on visits to the USA, staying with latin folks in latin areas like Astoria in Brooklyn. Obviously, your deep involvement in the latin community of Culpepper has given you a superior insight into all this.

However, it seems to me that latins, legal and otherwise, pick up more than their fair share of low wage jobs that the rest of you aren't prepared to do. That's why your government are prepared to turn a blind eye to their presence in your country. Perhaps they were pushing it a bit by going on a march but, in the main, they seem to just get on with things, without complaining too much. But, of course, as they're not "born and bred" there, they don't really have a right to complain about anything, do they?

LancYorkYankee · 07-01-2007, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Do forgive my ignorance, LYY. I'm basing my observations on visits to the USA, staying with latin folks in latin areas like Astoria in Brooklyn. Obviously, your deep involvement in the latin community of Culpepper has given you a superior insight into all this.

However, it seems to me that latins, legal and otherwise, pick up more than their fair share of low wage jobs that the rest of you aren't prepared to do. That's why your government are prepared to turn a blind eye to their presence in your country. Perhaps they were pushing it a bit by going on a march but, in the main, they seem to just get on with things, without complaining too much. But, of course, as they're not "born and bred" there, they don't really have a right to complain about anything, do they?

Thanks so much for the lesson. I didn't realize you personally knew so many of the 6.2 million Hispanics in this country. And your intensive travels throughout all the many realms of American society have obviously made you an incredible expert on this culture. Cause every hispanic that you've "met" thinks exactly like all the others right?

Just like all us WASP americans think alot eh?

bullseyebarb · 08-01-2007, 00:33

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Do forgive my ignorance, LYY. I'm basing my observations on visits to the USA, staying with latin folks in latin areas like Astoria in Brooklyn. Obviously, your deep involvement in the latin community of Culpepper has given you a superior insight into all this.

However, it seems to me that latins, legal and otherwise, pick up more than their fair share of low wage jobs that the rest of you aren't prepared to do. That's why your government are prepared to turn a blind eye to their presence in your country. Perhaps they were pushing it a bit by going on a march but, in the main, they seem to just get on with things, without complaining too much. But, of course, as they're not "born and bred" there, they don't really have a right to complain about anything, do they?

I am sure you will find illegals in Culpepper. We have a huge population here in Georgia. It's true, the U.S. government has been ignoring this situation for over 20 years now. Used to be only a problem for the border states. Now it's nationwide. People are fed up with the crime and drain on public resources. We understand why folks want to come here - we'd just prefer that they do so legally and then assimilate once they arrive.

It's not true that hispanics do jobs that Americans refuse. Recent example. Raid on several Swift Meat Packing Plants. A slew of illegals arrested. Next day, hundreds of LEGAL citizens lined up to apply for those jobs. Black, White, Hispanic, Asian. Americans are not work shy, believe me.

garinda · 08-01-2007, 00:50

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Do forgive my ignorance, LYY. I'm basing my observations on visits to the USA, staying with latin folks in latin areas like Astoria in Brooklyn. Obviously, your deep involvement in the latin community of Culpepper has given you a superior insight into all this.

However, it seems to me that latins, legal and otherwise, pick up more than their fair share of low wage jobs that the rest of you aren't prepared to do. That's why your government are prepared to turn a blind eye to their presence in your country. Perhaps they were pushing it a bit by going on a march but, in the main, they seem to just get on with things, without complaining too much. But, of course, as they're not "born and bred" there, they don't really have a right to complain about anything, do they?

Just because we know LYY to be a white American of British stock, it's a bit rude to portray him as some WASP Patrick Bateman from American Psycho, sending the poor illegal immigrants out pickin' the God damn cotton in the fields.

No wonder people are so quick to stereotype nationalities, and that most people in the world think us Brits ride carriages through swirling fog, whilst wearing Deer Stalker hats or bustles, preferably not at the same time.

steeljack · 08-01-2007, 01:37

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Originally Posted by bullseyebarb

I am sure you will find illegals in Culpepper. We have a huge population here in Georgia. It's true, the U.S. government has been ignoring this situation for over 20 years now. Used to be only a problem for the border states. Now it's nationwide. People are fed up with the crime and drain on public resources. We understand why folks want to come here - we'd just prefer that they do so legally and then assimilate once they arrive.

It's not true that hispanics do jobs that Americans refuse. Recent example. Raid on several Swift Meat Packing Plants. A slew of illegals arrested. Next day, hundreds of LEGAL citizens lined up to apply for those jobs. Black, White, Hispanic, Asian. Americans are not work shy, believe me.

Even though it gives me chest pains, and tremors in my left arm

I totally agree with Barb on this one

both political parties are to blame and niether will accept blame or responsibility or do a sodding thing about it

note to Barb , Nancy Pelosi was wearing lavender coloured attire on her swearing in as Speaker because its the supposed 'symbolic' color of the suffragette movement , not because she hails from San Francisco

Wynonie Harris · 08-01-2007, 10:42

SJ and Barb, I wouldn't complain too much about your government's attitude on this. According to LYY, only those born and bred in the USA have the right to complain, so that counts you two out.

And, Garry, don't you think that someone with the above attitude deserves a certain amount of criticism?

garinda · 08-01-2007, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

And, Garry, don't you think that someone with the above attitude deserves a certain amount of criticism?

No I don't. What LYY said was that illegal immigrants shouldn't have the right to demand 'their rights'.

I would be the first of I guess many people if the illegal immigrants we have in the UK marched on Downing Street to demand the same rights as legal citizens.

Wynonie Harris · 08-01-2007, 11:22

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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee

Nah Rindy, I think when "born and bred" citizens, regardless of race/religion, question their Country it's alot different.

Am I missing something here? Does born and bred not mean born and bred in the USA?

garinda · 08-01-2007, 11:24

...and it was you that mentioned Latinos. Again making presumptions about nationality and sterotypes.

I know two girls working illegally in the US as nannies. One a Brit and the other Irish.

garinda · 08-01-2007, 11:28

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris

Am I missing something here? Does born and bred not mean born and bred in the USA?

I think you are reading something into that that wasn't inteded. LYY said that in reply to my tongue in cheek comment, that I also criticise my country, and should perhaps be asked to leave.

Wynonie Harris · 08-01-2007, 11:29

The march he was talking about was mainly, if not exclusively, attended by latin people. And, as I say, do you think it's OK to have the attitude that only those born and bred in a country as allowed to criticize it?

Wynonie Harris · 08-01-2007, 11:32

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Originally Posted by garinda

I think you are reading something into that that wasn't inteded. LYY said that in reply to my tongue in cheek comment, that I also criticise my country, and should perhaps be asked to leave.

Oh well, it must be the American sense of humour. Anyway, I must get the footman to bring me my cloak and boots. My carriage awaits.