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09-01-2007, 18:39
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Yank in King Art's Court!
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Re: Serves him right...
Willow, thought your story (#41) did a nice job of stating the opinions of the hundreds of thousands of immigrants who have followed all the parameters to become citizens. Again I say, it's the legal immigrants that hate what the illegals are doing most of all. Unfortunately, they are all put in the same barrel and face discrimination because "they're one of those hispanics!"
It's very sad because the majority of recently legalized immigrants tend to be very hard workers, are adapting to their new nation's culture, they are learning the language, and are proud to be americans.
Another fact as I understand it, most of the immigrants either legal or illegal prefer to be called by their nation of ancestry i.e. columbians, salvadorans, cubans, puerto ricans, mexicans, etc. Many refer to all of them as mexicans which has almost become like a dirty word.
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09-01-2007, 19:58
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Re: Serves him right...
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Your good lady and yourself Wynonie have my profound apologies, it must be the result of watching to many American films, by the way my Merlot is served at room temperature and you are both welcome anytime, again my apologies. regards Ian.
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No problemo, compadre, but you shouldn't be so free and easy with the invites. Don't forget, you posted your address on here a few days ago!
Don't worry only, joking, Ian.
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09-01-2007, 20:08
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Re: Serves him right...
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No wonder people are so quick to stereotype nationalities, and that most people in the world think us Brits ride carriages through swirling fog, whilst wearing Deer Stalker hats or bustles, preferably not at the same time.
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I'd pay good money to see you do that, rindy! Maybe the Accy Observer will publish the pics!
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09-01-2007, 20:20
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Re: Serves him right...
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Originally Posted by LancYorkYankee
Another fact as I understand it, most of the immigrants either legal or illegal prefer to be called by their nation of ancestry i.e. columbians, salvadorans, cubans, puerto ricans, mexicans, etc. Many refer to all of them as mexicans which has almost become like a dirty word.
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I've heard people refer to "Mexifornia" as a derogatory term implying that there are more people of hispanic origin in California now than of any other ethnic origin. Ironic really as California was once part of Mexico.
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09-01-2007, 21:18
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Re: Serves him right...
Problem is, we don't actually know how many illegals are here. Some estimates go as high as 20 million! This is what happens when you don't enforce the law. The highest percentage of illegals are from Mexico and the Mexican government has been aiding illegal crossings for years. Most recently providing GPS technology so that people can avoid border patrols, etc., The money these workers send back to their families in Mexico keeps the economy there afloat and staves off any serious political reform in that country.
Illegal immigration was a huge issue in our last election. We are, quite literally, being INVADED. But I still don't think the federal government gets it.
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09-01-2007, 21:47
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Re: Serves him right...
yep Mexifornia is right .......
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09-01-2007, 21:55
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Land of the free indeed.
Since 9/11 every foreigner is an illegal immigrant!
Just shows what a nice bit of presidential spin can do.
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09-01-2007, 22:58
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Re: Serves him right...
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We are, quite literally, being INVADED.
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Wake up and smell the fajitas, Barb.
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10-01-2007, 01:05
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Re: Serves him right...
A serious question.
When were controls first introduced on immigrants entering the States?
(Not a serious comment - I bet the indeginous Americans wished they had stricter entry requirements, when the white man first set foot on American soil.)
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10-01-2007, 01:49
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Re: Serves him right...
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Originally Posted by garinda
A serious question.
When were controls first introduced on immigrants entering the States?
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I think the first laws controling wholesale immigration laws were enacted about 1924,( prior to that there had been the Chinese exclusion laws in the 1800s and a further one at the turn of the century to bar/reduce Japanese immigration ,) The 1924 law set up national quotas, prior to that emmigrants from Europe were allowed in wholesale , the only restrictions being the examination for health reasons at Ellis Island and other ports of entry , at these stations the sick and feebleminded were returned to their port of embarkation .
A place similar to Ellis Island was set up in San Francisco bay after the repeals of the Asian exclusion laws at Angel Island , (now a National Park which attracts many folks of asian extraction wishing to vist the place where their forefathers first came ashore)
Hispanic/Latino (confusing terms) immigration to the US happened thru several ways , from Spain and Portugal thru Ellis Island , though a big migration of Portugese to California happened thru of all places thru Hawaii , they had migrated there from the Azores following/developing the whaling industry and then moved east to California during the 40s/50s prior to statehood.
Immigration from 'south' of the border used to be limited to the border states and primarily seasonal agricultural workers , but due to sky high birth rates (blame Catholic Church) and economic collapse in Mexico there was a steep decline in living standard and thus more economic refugees heading north .
Immigration from other countries in Latin and South America, at least the folks I know are refugees from civil wars in Guatamala , EL Salvador and Nicaragura .
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10-01-2007, 13:16
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Re: Serves him right...
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We are, quite literally, being INVADED.
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Spoken without a hiny of irony. Still, at least they're not bombing you.
Incidentally, perhaps someone would like to tell us how you expect to remove all these illegal immigrants? How will you find them? Where will you hold them? How are you going to cope with the financial and logistical demands of transporting millions and millions of people back to their home countries throughout Latin America? I'd be very interested to know.
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