sex pests ... - Page 3

Acrylic-bob · 03-03-2005, 11:02

I'm not arguing for Christianity, Vorlon. Merely attempting to point out the basic hypocracy of a society which calls itself Christian and yet cannot apply the religion's most fundamental tennet. Speaking as a victim, at the time I was not interested in retribution legal or otherwise - I just wanted it not to have happened and was vaguely worried that I might have been somehow responsible for it in the first place.

janet · 03-03-2005, 11:14

The bible says an eye for an eye, so to me it's saying seek out revenge. Which all parents would do, i don't have children but if someone was to harm my sisters children or grandchildren then i would be right there with her doing what i could.

slinky · 03-03-2005, 11:18

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The bible says an eye for an eye, so to me it's saying seek out revenge. Which all parents would do, i don't have children but if someone was to harm my sisters children or grandchildren then i would be right there with her doing what i could.

YES I agree, my own children come before anyone, absolutly anyone even myself. But if someone were to touch any of my nieces or nephews damn right I would want blood for that too. Think the old saying goes ''you mess with one you mess with us all'' and my family have always stood by this, you look after each other because no-one will do it for you.

vorlon24 · 03-03-2005, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

I'm not arguing for Christianity, Vorlon. Merely attempting to point out the basic hypocracy of a society which calls itself Christian and yet cannot apply the religion's most fundamental tennet.

I don't know of anyone, Christian or otherwise, who would forgive the person who did something like that to their kids. I also feel that there would be something wrong with them if they did.

Maybe it's just as well I am not a Christian.

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Speaking as a victim, at the time I was not interested in retribution legal or otherwise - I just wanted it not to have happened and was vaguely worried that I might have been somehow responsible for it in the first place.

Which is why this should not be swept under the carpet. There are people all over the world who feel the same as you did, and making things like this public may give some children the impetus to speak out, where they may not normally have the courage to do so.

They need to be educated to speak out if someone does something to them that makes them feel uncomfortable, and making them aware that there are other people who have suffered in the same way that they have will (I believe) make them feel less isolated

slinky · 03-03-2005, 11:25

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They need to be educated to speak out if someone does something to them that makes them feel uncomfortable

Right from being very little I have always made it very clear to my kids that if they are ever worried about ANYTHING,ANYTHING AT ALL then they should come straight to me and tell me, I will never be mad at them or angry but they should tell me. I have taught my kids to be very open about there feelings anyway and never to hide things, they also know mum is a friend aswell as mum and we talk on friendly levels aswell because sometimes it's not as embarrasing to talk to a friend figure as a mum figure

Dean · 03-03-2005, 12:36

not sure in one way yes but in the other no

slinky · 03-03-2005, 12:53

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not sure in one way yes but in the other no

what was that the reply to??

chav1 · 03-03-2005, 13:17

ok A-B you have a different prespective than us because you have been a victim of your parents and although they did horrible things they are your parents and you love them no matter what they did the same way a parent would love their child no matter what they did and no matter how much dissapointment and heartbreak they caused

but heres an example for you to think about

a baby sitter trusted by the family and with recomendations from other people he has baby sitted for molests and rapes a 2 year old and a 5 year old

the pervert gets 5 years but serves only 2.5 years

by the time he is released the children move away to start a new life but he is now free to walk the streets and prey on other children

should he be allowed to walk freely amongst us and our children as we all know that over 90% of child molestors re offend

at the very least they should be castrated

anyone that has the capacity to rape a child is a mennace to society and we should be allowed to know who is a danger to our children

i would hate to turn up to school to pick my child up to find he had been dragged off in a car by a pervert just realeased from jail

slinky · 03-03-2005, 13:19

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at the very least they should be castrated

Glad someone else agree's that these b''''''s should be hurt BADLY.

chav1 · 03-03-2005, 14:16

i would like to point out that i agree that victims identitys shoudl be protected and their feelings considered but somthing realy does need to be done so that the public is aware of who has done what and what kind of danger they pose

i did not make this post as somone paranoid or caught up in the hype of the media i wrote it as a concerned parent as to how many of these people freely walk down our streets where our children play etc

many times these people get released back into their home towns so imagine how a child would feel when suddenly finding themselves face to face with their attacker in the street

as a parent i want the right to know if these people are near my children and i dont see why my childs safety should be put at risk just to prevent a pervert from getting a good kicking which he or she truely deserves

perhaps if we hung them instead of jailing them there would be no need to worry about what they do after been released

garinda · 03-03-2005, 14:20

I totally agree with you Slinky, if anybody harmed any of my nearest and dearest, l'd do the same as you. Which is sad really, because doing that won't take away whats happened to them, and just when they need us most, we'd be banged up.

chav1 · 03-03-2005, 14:22

there are too many rights for the guilty and not enough for the victims and the innocent

a pervert has more rights when released than his victim

how would you explain to a 5 year old that daddy cant make the nasty man go away

garinda · 03-03-2005, 15:03

Yes but how would you explain to a child their Daddy has been executed/castrared only to find out years later he was innocent?

Doesn't happen? British justice?

Ask the Birmingham 5.

chav1 · 03-03-2005, 15:06

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Yes but how would you explain to a child their Daddy has been executed/castrared only to find out years later he was innocent?

Doesn't happen? British justice?

Ask the Birmingham 5.

usualy theres forensic evidence these days so in the cases where semen was found in a young childs parts then ime all for public execution

the birmingham 5 were suspected bombers and had chemicals found in explosives on them so they wer eunfortunate at the time

semen and other body fluids , fibers etc are uniqe to one individual so theres no way there can be a mix up there

garinda · 03-03-2005, 15:13

Child abuse doesn't always include semen, lots of abuse could still yeild no DNA, therefore innocent people will be found guilty as well as the guilty.

Bit strange to say 'sex pest' in thread title, belittles a very sereious issue.