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chav1 · 02-03-2005, 23:50

should it be legal to name and shame convicted child abusers and put up posters naming and shaming them

i ask this in the light of the jackson case because if his trial can be reported on in great detail whats the difference between watching reports on his trial and naming and shaming a convicted child molester

i wish there was a website where you could name and same these people

rockrabbit · 03-03-2005, 00:15

Yes they should be named mainly for the safety of children when the pervert is released after a cpl of years and gets out on good behaviour . Plus which ever poor child has been assaulted will be scarred mentally for life so why should the pervert be able to walk free and start a new life ?
Michael Jackson should never have been allowed to pay that kid off back in 92 i think it was . If anything it made it look like he d bought his innocense

chav1 · 03-03-2005, 00:48

the law is pathetic as it stands i could end up in jail longer than a man who raped a child if i named and shamed him

meanwhile he would be free to walk past schools and scout his next victim

they say child rapists arnt allowed near schools but as we are not allowed to put warning posters up etc how do we know when one is hanging around school yards

WillowTheWhisp · 03-03-2005, 08:12

"aren't allowed" doesn't mean a thing really does it? Who is going to be there to stop them? How do any of us know that someone walking past a school playground or parking outside it isn't a pervert? Busman sometimes parks outside the school when he's waiting for me if I'm there for any reason. If he can do that so could some unsavoury character.

garinda · 03-03-2005, 08:13

l don't know what the answer is. A coupe of years ago The News of the World, printed photos of child abusers. The only trouble was that innocent people who fitted the photos, & descriptions were attacked by mobs in some parts of the country.
The polce always say that they, the abusers, would go underground, if the sex register was available ot the general public, and children would be at more risk.
Stanley Cook was convicted of abusing and killing a child yet was released after 9 years, this l find totally, and utterly ludicrous. Ronnie Biggs, robs a train and is still imprisoned now as he dies! Justice?

fibi · 03-03-2005, 08:17

Definaytely should name them, we should all have the right to feel safe at all times.

fibi · 03-03-2005, 08:18

That should be definately!!!!

Acrylic-bob · 03-03-2005, 08:46

As the victim of abuse at the hands of parents and friends of the family I'd like to stick my two pennorth in here. But before I begin let me say that I don't want anyone's sympathy, I have no use for it.

I am sorry to have to say this but your pathetically ineffectual macho posturing is almost as offensive and hurtful as the original assaults. I am sick to the back teeth with all the hysteria surrounding this subject, whipped up by the tabloid media and perpetuated by people who are unable to think for themselves. I can fully appreciate that parents may be anxious about the safety of their children, especially when one considers what might happen, but the remedy for such fears is simple; take greater care of them! Know were they are and who they are with - at all times! Give up some of your precious time and effort to monitor who they are communicating with. Children are not playthings or fashion accessories to be dumped in front of the electronic nanny when they get tiresome, or didn’t your parents teach you that?

There can be no argument that it is not wrong for an adult to use a child for sexual gratification, just as there can be no argument that such individuals should not suffer the full penalty of the law on conviction. Living as we do, in a Country which according to the census describes itself as 70% Christian, places ethical obligations upon us. Firstly, we are required to forgive the transgressor, Secondly we are required to permit the transgressor to get on with his life once he has shown remorse and made some form of restitution or recompense. And that should be an end of it!

But it seems that there are sections of our society who take a perverse pleasure in wallowing in the misery of others. Just as there appears to be a section of society who are determined to be victims, even in the absence of any crime.

As for the walking wounded, the vast majority of us would much prefer to be left in peace, to try and forget and to get on with our lives. It helps no one to have this sort of reminder stuffed in your face day after day.

If you are determined to root out this modern scourge, perhaps it would be helpful to bear in mind that most child abuse happens in the home or at the hands of family friends. Perhaps that would be a better place to begin your purge rather than congregating at school gates threatening to lynch anyone of even a vaguely male gender.

garinda · 03-03-2005, 09:03

Very well said, most abuse happens in the home, by people who are supposed to love and care, and no one ever sees it. Hysteria doesn't save any child from suffering.

THOTH · 03-03-2005, 09:05

Stanley Cook was convicted of abusing and killing a child yet was released after 9 years, this l find totally, and utterly ludicrous. Ronnie Biggs, robs a train and is still imprisoned now as he dies! Justice?[/QUOTE]
Ah yes, but MONEY was involved in the latter. And we all ( ? ) know that the Financial Mafias rule the world.

slinky · 03-03-2005, 09:07

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Originally Posted by garinda

l don't know what the answer is. A coupe of years ago The News of the World, printed photos of child abusers. The only trouble was that innocent people who fitted the photos, & descriptions were attacked by mobs in some parts of the country.
The polce always say that they, the abusers, would go underground, if the sex register was available ot the general public, and children would be at more risk.
Stanley Cook was convicted of abusing and killing a child yet was released after 9 years, this l find totally, and utterly ludicrous. Ronnie Biggs, robs a train and is still imprisoned now as he dies! Justice?

Igot a better idea then, to stop mistaken identity. TATTOO IT ON THE PERVES HEAD, then we can say to our kids '' you see that man with the words 'dirty b'''''rd ' tattooed on his head? stop away from him!!

Acrylic-bob · 03-03-2005, 09:16

Would you like to explain just how would it have helped me to have had my parents tattooed in such a way?

WillowTheWhisp · 03-03-2005, 09:23

The only problem with that one Slinky is that sometimes people are later proved innocent and then they would have been branded for life.

I know that most child abuse is carried out by someone known to the family or a member of the family but that doesn't stop people worrying about "the weird guy down the road who invites young girls into his house"

I hear what you're saying A-b about keeping an eye on your children and knowing where they are at all times but I've got one at Springhill and one at Moorhead and I can't be at both places when they each come out of school. I have to trust that they can make their way safely home. They have enough sense not to speak to or accept lifts from anyone they don't know, or for that matter to accept sweets or anything else (which could be drugs). We can't wrap our children in cotton wool all the time. They have to live in the real world and they have to learn to be independent when they grow up.

slinky · 03-03-2005, 09:25

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob

Would you like to explain just how would it have helped me to have had my parents tattooed in such a way?

No offence, but the abuser wouldn't have lived long enough to harm another child. What about poor jessica and holly? they were on the way to her grandmothers house, their parents were told where they were going! and thought everything was fine, how wrong. Then you get the goverment making sure that MAXINE CARR'S identity is as sealed as a ducks a"". No it's wrong, she will get to live in peace now...............what about the girls?? what about the family?? will they ever live in peace??.

WillowTheWhisp · 03-03-2005, 09:36

Hang on a minute. Maxine Carr wasn't convicted of child abuse. She was just dim enough to think her boyfriend was innocent. Yes she did wrong in giving him an alibi but she has paid the price for that and should now be able to make a new start. The fact that a load of money has been spent on protecting her identity is because of the things people would like to do to her because they can't do it to him.

Would attacking her actually ease the suffering of the children's families? Would it actually do any good?