shameless hyndburn homes

spinner · 02-03-2007, 21:17

i went to view a property for sale owned by hyndburn homes on blakburn rd today and from the outside it appeard fine. i knew that a 100 year old man who i knew lived there for a long time until he died approx 7months ago. wen i got into the house i nearly fainted it was damp all over , peeling wallpaper from the 70s, ceilings nearly falling down and no central heating and it is a massive house so it must have been cold in thewinter. after he died they rewired it and did the kitchen up because it was so grotty. ive seen this company refurbishin modern properties which seemed decent enough and i couldnt comprehend why this property was not refurbished by the previous owners (the council) or hyndbrn homes. his neighbours told me they had tried in vain to get this help for him but failed. when i asked the lady who accompanied me at the viewing to me as to why this poor man had to live like this she shrugged her shoulders. i know this man is dead now but im really shocked and saddened as to why this was allowed to happen.

Mancie · 02-03-2007, 21:37

It is allowed because it's brick and morter.. a house.. highly valuable commodity whatever state it's in.
When will the people of this country wake up and realise we need more homes.. more houses built?
The "don't build them round here.. its green belt.." or some other excuse bods are very strong when it comes to elections.. politicians get voted for on the strength of keeping these people happy.

There was a thread on here complaining about Jack Prescott wanting to build coincil houses from here to lands end... but why not?... things change and this country needs more houses.. fact!...but we seem to be going down the same old road again were we rely on old stock, renting or buying from landlords wether they be the council or private.

grego · 02-03-2007, 21:40

Did the council/Hyndburn homes own this house when the man lived there? If so would it have been upto him to approach them about it? Did they know it was like that? I agree it seems really sad that he lived like that.

Ianto.W. · 02-03-2007, 21:52

They probably waited for the old guy to pass away spinner, the profit margin is the God of capitalism, Hyndburn Homes are far worse than Hyndburn Council as they are only accountable to their shareholders, at least you had the option of voting the 'Council' out, but you have no bargining power with a private company save "get out if you don't like it' attitude, are you watching Mr Peter 'perfect' Britclife, when you gave these houses away you were only passing the Buck!

WillowTheWhisp · 02-03-2007, 22:45

Isn't a house at least supposed to be fit for human habitation? That one doesn't sound like it is.

As for building new houses there's still plenty of brown land to go at without building on the green.

flashy · 02-03-2007, 22:53

it actually makes you wonder why the man died, it was probably from old age but did the damp and cold conditions have anything to do with it?

cashman · 03-03-2007, 00:18

its diabolical but its buisness, unfortunately you spinner and the poor old guy DO NOT MATTER.

Mancie · 03-03-2007, 00:22

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Isn't a house at least supposed to be fit for human habitation? That one doesn't sound like it is.

As for building new houses there's still plenty of brown land to go at without building on the green.

The same old "brown land" argument Willow... it does not work out.. the poplulation of this country grows day by day..we need new homes.

garinda · 03-03-2007, 00:31

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Originally Posted by flashytart

it actually makes you wonder why the man died

At a hundred?

I suspect of old age!

Without knowing the full facts I can't really comment, but they made 'em tough in those days!

He'd certainly have been brought up without central heating, or indeed a bathroom or an indoor loo.

Who knows?

Perhaps at his age he wanted to just see out his long life in his own home, without all the upheaval of having builders disturbing his peace. Or perhaps he was frightened he'd have to move out whilst the renovations were done to his home, and it was his choice to stay there, happy amongst his own things.

The fact is we simply don't know the facts.

Lets just be pleased that the old boy lived to a grand old age in his own home, centrally heated or not.

cashman · 03-03-2007, 00:36

facts or no facts rind, theres NO excuse for selling a property in that condition after the old guy croaked, unless its sold cheap to develop.

garinda · 03-03-2007, 00:42

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Originally Posted by cashman

facts or no facts rind, theres NO excuse for selling a property in that condition after the old guy croaked, unless its sold cheap to develop.

We don't know anything!

The price. If he lived there until his death, or was in a home or hospital for a couple of years! Nothing.

I suspect the state of the property will be reflected in the price. It always is, regardless of who the seller is.

If in sixty years time, if some busy body trys to install something in my house, that is now seen as a necessity, and I didn't want it, and I just wanted to see out my days in peace, I'd shoot 'em, and barricade myself in.

Ianto.W. · 03-03-2007, 00:48

Why do this council not take the bull by the horns and do what they say to bad landlords, compulsory purchase these properties, Ill tell you why not, they would then fall foul of their own rules the onus would then be on 'them' to put them into habital conditlon. There is no such thing as a council house, they only have a say in the priority letting of them, the greedy gnomes that got them for nothing are getting all the grants with the perks that go with them, to refurbish them but the catch is, this then enables them to increase the rent as they have upgraded the property , 'at the taxpayers expence'.

cashman · 03-03-2007, 00:51

yeh but they are a big company (which i hate) and nobody installed damp. know what yer saying about necessities ya dont want fair doos,but let me knock these robbing scumbags in peace.

WillowTheWhisp · 03-03-2007, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Mancie

The same old "brown land" argument Willow... it does not work out.. the poplulation of this country grows day by day..we need new homes.

I'm not disputing the fact that we need more homes - in fact more than that, what we need are more affordable homes, but when there is derelict land lying there doing nothing that is where property should be built first. It makes no sense at all to build on green land and leave derelict sites still there.

garinda · 03-03-2007, 09:27

Again we have no facts regarding this old man, except hearsay, although if he lived to a hundred it can't have been that unhealthy place to live.

Every week there are young families in the Observer complaing about the conditions of their home. Usually by the time the story has gone to press any work has been rectified, and in every case the reason given by Hyndburn Homes was that the families wanted to move in early, knowing that the work was still to be completed.

If it was true, and this old man was unhappy living in his home, did he have no friends or family, or even neighbours, who could have helped him? The press would have had a feild day. Because they didn't, I suspect he may have been quite content to live undisturbed in his remaining twilight years.

As for damp, any property left unheated and unaired for seven months, especially over winter, in this damp Lancashire weather, will suffer from some sort of damp problem because of condensation.