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WillowTheWhisp · 22-09-2008, 13:14

Yes, the smiley says what I understand by evolution, which is actually a degeneration from the perfectly created state which Adam and Eve were in to what we currently have today with all our ailments and disabilities. God did not create us like this. The human race deteriorated to this due to the fall from grace in the garden of Eden. The world also deteriorated from it's original paradisiacal state.

Maybe that's where the Catholic Church gets the idea of 'original sin'.

Neil · 22-09-2008, 13:19

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Yes, the smiley says what I understand by evolution, which is actually a degeneration from the perfectly created state which Adam and Eve were in to what we currently have today with all our ailments and disabilities. God did not create us like this. The human race deteriorated to this due to the fall from grace in the garden of Eden. The world also deteriorated from it's original paradisiacal state.

I thought God was all knowing and all seeing. He must have known what was going to happen yet He screwed us up anyway when He created us.

WillowTheWhisp · 22-09-2008, 13:23

Of course he knew! That's why he provide an escape clause with the Atonement. He didn't make any mistakes. He gave us our freedom so we could make our own though. How else does a child learn? Do we do everything for our own children and never allow them to learn from their own mistakes?

Lilly · 22-09-2008, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Neil

He screwed us up anyway when He created us.

Speak for yourself.

jaysay · 22-09-2008, 15:59

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Originally Posted by Lilly

Speak for yourself.

Whats this Lilly you saying Neil's a screw up

Eric · 23-09-2008, 00:31

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Well we're going to get into deeper water here because my answer would be disputed by other Christians but here goes anyway.

There isn't only a 'Mr. God'. There's a 'Mrs God' as well and we are all their literal children.

I thought that Mrs. God is the church; the bride of christ

Maybe the heavenly couple should have practised birth control.

Neil · 23-09-2008, 01:41

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Originally Posted by Lilly

Speak for yourself.

Do you never get ill?

jambutty · 23-09-2008, 03:03

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

Yes, the smiley says what I understand by evolution, which is actually a degeneration from the perfectly created state which Adam and Eve were in to what we currently have today with all our ailments and disabilities. God did not create us like this. The human race deteriorated to this due to the fall from grace in the garden of Eden. The world also deteriorated from it's original paradisiacal state.

Maybe that's where the Catholic Church gets the idea of 'original sin'.

Did this fall from grace come before, during or after Adam and Eve had begat their brood?

WillowTheWhisp · 23-09-2008, 13:32

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Originally Posted by Eric

I thought that Mrs. God is the church; the bride of christ

Maybe the heavenly couple should have practised birth control.

Ah but then you're getting into the debate about the Trinity. You see I believe that God is the Father and Jesus Christ is is son, ie two different people. However, even having said that, this 'bride of Christ' idea is only an invention in later years.

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Did this fall from grace come before, during or after Adam and Eve had begat their brood?

before. There was only Adm and Eve when they took up apple eating - yes I know it wasn't necessarily an apple, it was 'a fruit'.