Sharia Law Rules OK! - Page 14

steeljack · 26-09-2008, 17:39

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Originally Posted by Gayle

Though, surely the 'creation' days are in the right order - created planets, sky and moon, plants, fish, animals etc. It's the same process as evolution but put in the story context of days. I think that whoever wrote Genesis did it as a story based on the process of evolution.

Totally agree , seems to me the "ancients" had a lot of knowledge that somehow got lost for a time , and we are just begining to 're-discover' it again

Gayle · 26-09-2008, 17:49

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Originally Posted by Splinter

But creationists do not believe in evolution, 'God made everything' is their mantra.

May be he did - may be he created evolution.

It's just another way of looking at it but essentially it's the same thing.

Splinter · 26-09-2008, 17:51

As a scientist, I have difficulty with that. Muddy puddle for me.

Gayle · 26-09-2008, 18:01

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Originally Posted by Splinter

As a scientist, I have difficulty with that. Muddy puddle for me.

No one can really know for sure what happened and both scientists and creationists absolutely believe that they are right. I just think that scientists and creationists are coming at the same thing but from different angles. Both think they have proof but both need a lot of faith to believe absolutely in their own points of view.

Splinter · 26-09-2008, 18:39

You could be right!!! lol!

WillowTheWhisp · 26-09-2008, 23:47

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Originally Posted by Gayle

No one can really know for sure what happened and both scientists and creationists absolutely believe that they are right. I just think that scientists and creationists are coming at the same thing but from different angles. Both think they have proof but both need a lot of faith to believe absolutely in their own points of view.

I think you're probably close to it with that. I believe the writers of Genesis and the rest of the Bible did their best to explain what they believed in but were limited in their understanding so could only explain in ways that made sense to them. For instance it's like the Native Americans calling the railway the 'iron horse'. It wasn't a horse but it was the only thing they could relate it to.

Neil · 27-09-2008, 01:54

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

For instance it's like the Native Americans calling the railway the 'iron horse'. It wasn't a horse but it was the only thing they could relate it to.

Thats not a good example - it was just a name they called the train in their own language. Just like the French called potatoes, apples of the earth.

accyman · 27-09-2008, 02:33

lol this thread reminds me of one of ricky jervais's little speeches

he read from the bible and i forget the exact order but it went somthing like

god created thea earth etc then said let there be light and on the 7th day he rested

not only did god create all the wonderous things on our planet but according to the bible he did it all in the dark and then created light

deep down i truely hope there is a god so that i can spit in his face before he sends me directly to hell

Neil · 27-09-2008, 03:03

Maybe He was trying to surprise Himself when He turned the light on.

jambutty · 27-09-2008, 03:22

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Originally Posted by WillowTheWhisp

I think you're probably close to it with that. I believe the writers of Genesis and the rest of the Bible did their best to explain what they believed in but were limited in their understanding so could only explain in ways that made sense to them. For instance it's like the Native Americans calling the railway the 'iron horse'. It wasn't a horse but it was the only thing they could relate it to.

That is the point.

People believe in what someone else believed in.

jaysay · 27-09-2008, 08:58

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Originally Posted by jambutty

That is the point.

People believe in what someone else believed in.

I think they call it natural progression JB.

Neil · 27-09-2008, 13:40

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Originally Posted by jaysay

I think they call it natural progression JB.

Whats progressive about it? Sounds more like natural regression or standing still even.

jaysay · 27-09-2008, 13:49

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Originally Posted by Neil

Whats progressive about it? Sounds more like natural regression or standing still even.

No Neil, natural progression happens, my mother was a chatholic so am I, my Father was a Rovers supporter so am I, and that insidently is my first religion

In Ince we trust

WillowTheWhisp · 27-09-2008, 15:31

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Originally Posted by jambutty

That is the point.

People believe in what someone else believed in.

Everything we experience and learn in life is based on something which others experienced and learned before us. Initially perhaps that's true about religion but it isn't true about faith. Personally I used to look at people who believed what I now believe and sort of envied them but didn't believe they were right, if that makes sense. I didn't base my beliefs on others, not even the Biblical accounts really. I just thought it must be great to be that sure about something. I read as much as I could, and still do. None of it was worth tuppence though until I came to the reality of it for myself. Once I had that personal knowledge and faith it all made sense, but it isn't something you can give to anyone else or convince anyone of by logic, any more so than anyone could ever convince me otherwise now no matter how much they may ridicule.

Accyman, why would you want to go to hell? Seriously, if the day comes and you find out that there really is a heaven and a hell and you have chosen the latter by your own free wil, are you really going to be happy with that choice?

shakermaker · 27-09-2008, 16:05

"God created evolution" LOL. Id God did, it wouldn't be your Abrahamic God would it? Or do scriptures mean nothing and you can make up your own interpretation to fit the latest evidence against all the Christian hocus pocus.