Sharia Law Rules OK! - Page 5

MargaretR · 16-09-2008, 22:23

School time could be better spent on teaching other things.
Teaching religion should be a small part of history teaching by demonstrating the adverse effect it has had on the progress of mankind

lancsdave · 16-09-2008, 22:25

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Originally Posted by blazey

How does one get in touch with their spiritual side when they are younger if they aren't taught about religion? What other subject awakens that path of thought?

Thats easy to answer ...... football, the best religion in the world

blazey · 16-09-2008, 22:34

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

This implies that religion is neccessary for human survival
....it isn't

PS we would be better off without it

Is art necessary? or music?

Not really, but some people enjoy it. I enjoy it so much I still attend regular talks on it at university to learn more about that way of thinking. I study ethics which sometimes draws upon religious teachings, sometimes criticises it.

You can't be right about this issue really, or wrong. Some people are better because of it. Some people turn away from crime because of religion, some get real comfort from it.

A friend of mine used to be tied up in drugs and crime and now he's 'found God' and whilst I don't agree with half of what he says, I think it is brilliant that something has gave him the focus to find a person in himself that doesnt need drugs and crime.

I think that is something to be thankful for and if that is wrong well then it's a very sad state of affairs.

cashman · 16-09-2008, 22:39

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

This implies that religion is neccessary for human survival
....it isn't

PS we would be better off without it

thats in your case, n thats fine,no problem, but many get great solace,peace etc from it n thats fine as well. to each their own.

MargaretR · 16-09-2008, 22:40

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Originally Posted by blazey

Is art necessary? or music?

Not really, but some people enjoy it. I enjoy it so much I still attend regular talks on it at university to learn more about that way of thinking. I study ethics which sometimes draws upon religious teachings, sometimes criticises it.

You can't be right about this issue really, or wrong. Some people are better because of it. Some people turn away from crime because of religion, some get real comfort from it.

A friend of mine used to be tied up in drugs and crime and now he's 'found God' and whilst I don't agree with half of what he says, I think it is brilliant that something has gave him the focus to find a person in himself that doesnt need drugs and crime.

I think that is something to be thankful for and if that is wrong well then it's a very sad state of affairs.

It is a bit ludicrous to compare music and art with religion.
They are all man made, but art and music never caused disruption of society and wars.

Your friend has decided to conform to society values - good.
I would think better of him if if had found a more realistic reason for doing so

blazey · 16-09-2008, 22:46

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

It is a bit ludicrous to compare music and art with religion.
They are all man made, but art and music never caused disruption of society and wars.

Your friend has decided to conform to society values - good.
I would think better of him if if had found a more realistic reason for doing so

Art has caused offence between white people and islamists... so a bad example of peacefulness there.

I am not saying you should be Catholic, you are clearly happy as you are. Yet you think people would be better without it. Is there something wrong with me?

There are wars over oil, shall we boycott that as well? And money?

I'm just getting offended by this topic now so I'm just going to leave it for other people to argue because sometimes there is just no compromise with some people. It's either their way or it's wrong, and i'm not willing to discuss things that mean a lot to me with close minded people.

From this conversation you have made me feel like I am wrong for being the way I am, and that is no different than those who pressure religion onto other people, so you have more in common with them than you think.

MargaretR · 16-09-2008, 22:52

'Peace of mind and solace' are achievable without religion.
If it is the only way that some people can find a reason for living then it is neccessary, but sadly so.

katex · 16-09-2008, 23:01

I side with Margaret on this one, we would be better off without religion, to me borders on a very serious evil side of nature, albeit also the very good side of it too. Like a good pop tune, has a poor flip side. Respect all other people's beliefs as long as they are doing no harm to my way of living (which some do at times).

We are grouping animals by nature, and will always have separate groups no matter what. No getting away from that I am afraid.

Not particularly happy about these courts being sanctioned at all .. although if only small disputes and not over-riding our own laws is OK, and as long as any judgement metered out will not be over stepping our punishment laws either ... just acting as 'Social' committees so to speak. Does appear though that could be the start of a growing separate justice system.

cashman · 16-09-2008, 23:23

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Originally Posted by katex

Not particularly happy about these courts being sanctioned at all .. although if only small disputes and not over-riding our own laws is OK, and as long as any judgement metered out will not be over stepping our punishment laws either ... just acting as 'Social' committees so to speak. Does appear though that could be the start of a growing separate justice system.

thats the "Real" danger to me, oh little things will be ok, well NO they will not, its the thin end of the wedge,only the start, fer goodness sake this is britain, we live by british law,its as simple as that.

BERNADETTE · 16-09-2008, 23:28

Whilst I was off-line there were quite a few programmes on about this, taking part in one discussion were young British Muslims and they were none to taken with the idea of Sharia Law. As has been said seems to be the thin edge of the wedge, we have laws that have sufficed so far why change?

cashman · 16-09-2008, 23:37

or more important bernie WHY should we? i did not expect the spanish to change fer me when i lived there why the hell should they.

shillelagh · 16-09-2008, 23:39

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Originally Posted by MargaretR

It is a bit ludicrous to compare music and art with religion.
They are all man made, but art and music never caused disruption of society and wars.

Margaret i thought you grew up in the 60's ....... what about mods and rockers ........