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06-11-2013, 23:28
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shipbuilding in the uk
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08-11-2013, 13:06
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
"If it wasn't for the nips being so good at building ships, the yards would still be open on the Clyde."
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08-11-2013, 13:31
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley
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Seems there are things in the article that you skipped over. No British company submitted a final bid on the contract. All British warships will still be built in Britain. A question you might ask yourself is: Would a "new" Labor government have done it any different? I don't be thinking so.
Just done a quick check; seems like all new ships for the Royal Canadian Navy will be built in Canada ... of course, we rely on canoes and kayaks:
Halifax wins $25B shipbuilding contract | CTV News
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08-11-2013, 14:13
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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"If it wasn't for the nips being so good at building ships, the yards would still be open on the Clyde."
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And they are not plaqued by stupid union rules, go slows, petty regulations, un the elf un safety.
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08-11-2013, 20:01
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
gordon brown did it, building ships in britain
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08-11-2013, 20:03
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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Originally Posted by Eric
Seems there are things in the article that you skipped over. No British company submitted a final bid on the contract. All British warships will still be built in Britain. A question you might ask yourself is: Would a "new" Labor government have done it any different? I don't be thinking so.
Just done a quick check; seems like all new ships for the Royal Canadian Navy will be built in Canada ... of course, we rely on canoes and kayaks:
Halifax wins $25B shipbuilding contract | CTV News
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there is no more warships being built due to the tory cuts no british company probably didnt get to know about the order till the tories stitched it up for their mates
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08-11-2013, 20:13
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
You must have cut and paste proof of this somewhere in your repertoire.
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08-11-2013, 20:57
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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gordon brown did it, building ships in britain
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Aye, that'll be the ongoing shambles of the Queen Elizabeth class carriers. As to why we can't build our own, be they Royal or Merchant Navy, probably to do with over expensive, slow & staggered production, ever spiralling prices. So to avoid that they (the Government ours & others) look else where.
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08-11-2013, 20:59
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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Originally Posted by cmonstanley
there is no more warships being built due to the tory cuts no british company probably didnt get to know about the order till the tories stitched it up for their mates
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Don't talk so daft, how could they keep it quiet about new warships without British Companies finding out. Who wired your brain together.
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09-11-2013, 14:53
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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Don't talk so daft, how could they keep it quiet about new warships without British Companies finding out. Who wired your brain together.
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Walter he doesn't have a brain he's Scottish
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09-11-2013, 15:29
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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Cost.
Korean Daewoo- £452million.
Italian Fincantieri-£675 million.
UK shipyards- no final quotes, so no chance of a contract!
The Italians would have shared 35% of the building of just one of the ships with BAE. Being BAE even that would probably have had massive delays and cost over-runs.
Incidentally, we'll probably be buying at least 3 more ships off Daewoo.
Cost. The same reason we buy Chinese white goods, clothes and nearly everything else we need.
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09-11-2013, 16:54
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
bae only take on work with no fixed price like the submarines and aircraft carrier shambles that have no planes that can be used on them.clever people politicians much like those that run the clown halls.
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09-11-2013, 22:50
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
When we were over in the UK last year (after 55 years away) and visited the Clyde, it was depressing to note how the ship-building industry had virtually left that area. Over the years this must have affected a huge number of families.
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09-11-2013, 23:07
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth
Cost.
Korean Daewoo- £452million.
Italian Fincantieri-£675 million.
UK shipyards- no final quotes, so no chance of a contract!
The Italians would have shared 35% of the building of just one of the ships with BAE. Being BAE even that would probably have had massive delays and cost over-runs.
Incidentally, we'll probably be buying at least 3 more ships off Daewoo.
Cost. The same reason we buy Chinese white goods, clothes and nearly ever
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Hmm...you buy a fridge for £100 and it don't work 12 months later..you don't worry too much, you buy another...you buy a brand new car, it's underpowered, it's a rattletrap with poor cornering, cruddy fuel consumption and has the dashboard equivalent of a 1970 Ford Cortina, but it gets you from A to B, that's ok too, until you try to upgrade and trade in.
You buy a warship, it leaks, it's shoddy and it's so underpowered that it can't keep up with a Somali pirate vessel...major problem...the tories have googled 'cheap warship for sale'
Daewoo..jack of all trades master of none!
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Last edited by Guinness; 09-11-2013 at 23:11.
Reason: fix quote
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10-11-2013, 09:17
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Re: shipbuilding in the uk
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