should benefit cheats be allowed to be councillors - Page 3

lancsdave · 23-06-2007, 07:57

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Originally Posted by blazey

unable to afford adequate clothing say if the seasons where rapidly changing.

Hardly applicable to a councillor living in Britain. Everyone living here for a few years gets a good idea of what sort of wetaher we have, and it's not extreme. Cold in summer, slightly colder in winter, hardly rapid.

suzster · 23-06-2007, 07:58

It would depend on how long ago it was, their age at the time etc.

This poses an interesting question. Would you vote for a councillor with a conviction for: -

speeding
common assault
domestic violence
GBH
drink driving
driving an untaxed vehicle
theft
drugs (class a)
cannabis

...or maybe an ASBO?

Personally I dont think you can make a generic judgement - the circumstances should be fully investigated and an informed decision should be made by a representative panel of people.

I don't think we at Accyweb will ever be privy to that level of information

Suz x.

jambutty · 23-06-2007, 12:10

No person with a criminal record should be allowed to stand for public office.

cashman · 23-06-2007, 12:25

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Originally Posted by jambutty

No person with a criminal record should be allowed to stand for public office.

got it in one jambutty, simple as that.

Ianto.W. · 23-06-2007, 12:43

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blazey, I don't particularly care whether they become councillors or not. Benefit cheats dont buy 350,000 houses just on scamming benefits, they still have to make a massive amount of that money through hard work still.

How did you arrive at that conclusion blazey? It could mean they are dishonest in other quarters, I personally think anyone who 'knowingly' cheats the system must be to lazy to work and will try anything to further their greed, except work.

cmonstanley · 23-06-2007, 13:32

got it one ianto.w just like the so-called single mothers who have partners.they spoil it for the real single mothers .they fraud the housing benefit and that makes the council tax bills go up.everybody always asks where does all my council tax money goes?the answer is about 45% goes on the scheming thieving housing benefit fraudsters....

MargaretR · 23-06-2007, 14:20

https://secure.dwp.gov.uk/benefitfraud/

I think you can even be anonymous

Neil · 23-06-2007, 14:30

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Originally Posted by garinda

I had to jump through hoops, which is quite difficult when you have Parkinson's Disease.

It's not the Parkinsons that made it hard, it's the wind catching your floppy fringe that slowed you down

suzster · 23-06-2007, 19:42

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No person with a criminal record should be allowed to stand for public office.

I'm not too sure Jim. What if a person made a mistake at 16 and got themself a conviction, for arguments sake lets say it was for the theft of a packet of bacon from the Spar.

They then go on to put their past well and truly behind them and at 40 decide they would like to serve the community by standing for election.

Would you say no or would you listen to their case?

Suz x.

jambutty · 23-06-2007, 21:45

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Originally Posted by suzster

I'm not too sure Jim. What if a person made a mistake at 16 and got themself a conviction, for arguments sake lets say it was for the theft of a packet of bacon from the Spar.

They then go on to put their past well and truly behind them and at 40 decide they would like to serve the community by standing for election.

Would you say no or would you listen to their case?

Suz x.

As far as I know, offences committed under the age of 18 do not constitute an adult criminal record.

My opinion of “No person with a criminal record should be allowed to stand for public office” is a point to start from.

I would be open to negotiation if at least ten years had elapsed since the conviction was spent. But the applicant would have to have been of good character during that time without any convictions for non criminal offences, like speeding, parking, drunk and disorderly etc.

suzster · 24-06-2007, 07:21

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As far as I know, offences committed under the age of 18 do not constitute an adult criminal record.

My opinion of “No person with a criminal record should be allowed to stand for public office” is a point to start from.

I would be open to negotiation if at least ten years had elapsed since the conviction was spent. But the applicant would have to have been of good character during that time without any convictions for non criminal offences, like speeding, parking, drunk and disorderly etc.

I agree Jim

Suz x.