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Old 05-05-2008, 00:44   #151
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i was wondering who the "WE" is.
"We" as in me ain't right bothered
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Old 05-05-2008, 00:54   #152
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Well if you could show me a copy of the leaflet so I know exactly what it says I'll be able to respond better.
Look at the link PLEASE
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Old 05-05-2008, 03:39   #153
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Look at the link PLEASE
I don't understand? The leaflet was not the link..

Gayle wrote what was on the leaflet so I've responded to it now.. the link and the leaflet were completely different things
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Old 05-05-2008, 09:16   #154
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i was wondering who the "WE" is.
Think it may be the Royal we cashy
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Old 05-05-2008, 21:56   #155
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The clear difference being the Labour leaflet had completely misleading figures where as the Conservative ones told it how it was, the council were massively in debt and this has now been turned around.
So the Conservative leaflet claiming the Labour planed to intoduce parking charges was not misleading was it?

Maybe they had some knowlege that members of the Labour Group did not have.

The information was disingenuous to say the least. At least the information on the first Labour leaflet was taken from a reputable daily newspaper.

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Old 05-05-2008, 22:13   #156
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The three questions I put to you Graham are:

1. What date do you source the 'most expensive council' stuff in the leaflets?

2. What date was the figure in the telegraph?

3. Do you understand why the figure itself is flawed because of the way its worked out? I'd prefer a response that dealt with the issue not a "Well its in the telegraph" escape goat.

Could you please answer those questions specifically?
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Old 05-05-2008, 23:35   #157
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Old 05-05-2008, 23:38   #158
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So the Conservative leaflet claiming the Labour planed to intoduce parking charges was not misleading was it?

Maybe they had some knowlege that members of the Labour Group did not have.

The information was disingenuous to say the least. At least the information on the first Labour leaflet was taken from a reputable daily newspaper.
thats summat he will not answer, things are only misleading on his terms.
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Old 05-05-2008, 23:39   #159
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Old 05-05-2008, 23:46   #160
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I think I'ts run it's course?
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Old 05-05-2008, 23:59   #161
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I think I'ts run it's course?
We all think that but try telling the thread starter
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Old 06-05-2008, 00:11   #162
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I can't believe this thread is still going on. Labour lost a seat, Conservatives are being smug about it as per, but why continue to rub it in their faces days after the results? It isn't going to change anything is it?!

Graham shouldn't resign, Andrew should continue on his boring plight to becoming the next Graham Jones but for the dark side, and we will all live happily ever after no doubt.

The end.
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Old 06-05-2008, 04:18   #163
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Well as Some one who has been known to support the Conservative cause on the odd occasion I think it is time to draw the proverbial line in the sand. Its quite obviuos that Graham ain't going to tell Cyfr where or from what dates he was quoting the the Reputable dailly newspaper so its time to move on say start another thread could I sugest, "should Gordon Brown stay or should he go"
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:15   #164
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How boring.
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Old 06-05-2008, 09:34   #165
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So the Conservative leaflet claiming the Labour planed to intoduce parking charges was not misleading was it?

Maybe they had some knowlege that members of the Labour Group did not have.

The information was disingenuous to say the least. At least the information on the first Labour leaflet was taken from a reputable daily newspaper.
I can only comment on leaflets I actually have any knowledge about. The information on the labour leaflet was taken from a reputable newspaper indeed, just the Labour party either A) thought they could con everyone with the figures or B) don't understand the figures. They're also dated incorrectly, at least Graham knows they are or else he would have replied already, but as usual he only comes on here and replies when it makes him look good but avoids it when it might have negative implications.

IF the leaflet is simply saying 'Labour will introduce car parking charges' (and I have no idea where you mean because I havent seen the leaflet, seen what context it is in, or anything). And if it is true that the Labour group never mentioned anything of the sort then why are you not kicking up more of a fuss over complete falsehoods to the election commission?

Obviously over the council tax issue it's not against the rules to con the public as long as what you put there is fact, which of course it is fact, just that the facts are worked out inaccurately and have no real relevance to Hyndburn being an expensive council or not.
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