Should we 'legalise illegal drugs'? - Poll. - Page 15

MargaretR · 04-05-2012, 11:45

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Originally Posted by davemac

You cant hold a discussion if one side of the discussion will not entertain the possibility of the other side having a point, all you have are rantings.

This is a point made clear by some of the posts we have on here.

From a neutral observer's viewpoint BOTH sides ranted.

***Mr D*** · 04-05-2012, 11:58

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington

so because some childrens TV presenters in the dim and distant past did it...it's Ok?

Did you read the other article during the week where a young woman( who had been a long term user of cannabis) committed suicide? Still, perhaps you do not consider her death to be attributable to the cannabis...or the fact that her mental health had been affected by this substance.
I'm sure her family would find your comments very enlightening.

Im sure you could say that about a lot of substances, legal or illegal.

I would not blame cannabis for this, and I cant see how you can say it is to blame.

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Originally Posted by davemac

You cant hold a discussion if one side of the discussion will not entertain the possibility of the other side having a point, all you have are rantings.

This is a point made clear by some of the posts we have on here.

Yes your right, as Margaret says from both sides.

Margaret Pilkington · 04-05-2012, 13:47

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D***

I would not blame cannabis for this, and I cant see how you can say it is to blame.

It was not me saying that cannabis was to blame...it was what her family were saying. They were concerned that her long term use of this illegal substance had created mental health problems for her.

Personally, I haven't been one for doing something because it is what everybody else is doing.
I have my own mind, my own ideas.......I do not need others to influence me. I do not want to be 'like' someone else.

Restless · 04-05-2012, 17:07

They haven't proven yet that cannabis is linked to mental illness. But it is something they are theorizing and suggesting all the time.

Going back onto awareness. I read(and also was told) that some cannabis resin (aka soapbar) actually has Largactil added to it. Margaret, if this is true you can only imagine the damage it could cause to the mind

Restless · 04-05-2012, 17:36

List of chemicals and stuff that have been found inside ''soapbar''

beeswax, boot polish, animal turds, turpentine, henna, ground coffee, milk powder, pine resin, barbiturates, ketamine, aspirin, glues & dyes, Carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene and many other unidentified and possibly DEADLY chemicals.

jaysay · 04-05-2012, 17:50

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Originally Posted by Restless

List of chemicals and stuff that have been found inside ''soapbar''

beeswax, boot polish, animal turds, turpentine, henna, ground coffee, milk powder, pine resin, barbiturates, ketamine, aspirin, glues & dyes, Carcinogenic solvents such as Toluene and Benzene and many other unidentified and possibly DEADLY chemicals.

Ya that's a good enough reason for not washing Restless

Restless · 04-05-2012, 18:00

hehe

joking aside. Back when I used to smoke it there was a lot of this stuff about. Its frightening to think of what I could've been smoking.

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Originally Posted by jaysay

Ya that's a good enough reason for not washing Restless

annesingleton · 04-05-2012, 23:06

Does that make it ok?
I can only go from my own experiences and as far as I'm concerned cannabis and other illegal drugs including mephedrone - or bubble - do far more harm than good. I can't really say anything else about it, there really isn't much to advocate for legalising illegal substances in my opinion.
If anyone can evidence that drug use is beneficial to either individuals or to society, I'd like to hear it.

annesingleton · 04-05-2012, 23:08

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Originally Posted by kestrelx

Apparently 70's kids show presenters of "Playschool" smoked cannabis and were under the influence of cannabis during the show and the drug was used often in the BBC Studios!

http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/play-school-p...-round-up.html

Did it do these people any harm?

Sorry forgot to quote -
Does that make it ok?
I can only go from my own experiences and as far as I'm concerned cannabis and other illegal drugs including mephedrone - or bubble - do far more harm than good. I can't really say anything else about it, there really isn't much to advocate for legalising illegal substances in my opinion.
If anyone can evidence that drug use is beneficial to either individuals or to society, I'd like to hear it.

Less · 04-05-2012, 23:24

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Originally Posted by annesingleton

If anyone can evidence that drug use is beneficial to either individuals or to society, I'd like to hear it.

I do wish you hadn't said that, he'll start a brand new thread about it now...

and it will be all your fault.

annesingleton · 04-05-2012, 23:30

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Originally Posted by Less

I do wish you hadn't said that, he'll start a brand new thread about it now...

and it will be all your fault.

I know, sorry couldn't help myself! It really will be all my fault and I take responsibility for it - damn!!!

Margaret Pilkington · 05-05-2012, 06:28

Don't worry Anne, you and I can stand in the dock together accused of asking that question....I asked it in post 207.

I don't quite understand the mentality of people who want to do something because someone/everybody else is doing it.......as Ma used to say 'If they jumped in the fire - would you do it too?' A very juvenile bit of reasoning.

Eric · 06-05-2012, 11:46

Here'e a few Canucks who would probably vote "yes" in this poll if they knew about it:

Marijuana marchers take to the streets - Toronto - CBC News

accyman · 06-05-2012, 15:02

it may have been metioned already but amsterdam has tightened up use of canabis so non nationals will no longer be able to smoke canabis legaly in amsterdam.If they are toughening up i cant see our government relaxing on the issue.

another thing about this is that by banning other EU members and still allowing home nationals to smoke it legaly it would seem amsterdam /netherlands are breaking EU rules so yet another country sticking their fingers up at the EU while the UK follows the laws to the letter.

Meanwhile on the other side of the globe canada are relaxing laws and making it a prescription drug like some do in america.

Eric · 06-05-2012, 15:06

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Originally Posted by accyman

it may have been metioned already but amsterdam has tightened up use of canabis so non nationals will no longer be able to smoke canabis legaly in amsterdam.If they are toughening up i cant see our government relaxing on the issue.

another thing about this is that by banning other EU members and still allowing home nationals to smoke it legaly it would seem amsterdam /netherlands are breaking EU rules so yet another country sticking their fingers up at the EU while the UK follows the laws to the letter.

Meanwhile on the other side of the globe canada are relaxing laws and making it a prescription drug like some do in america.

What? You can't get marijuana on prescription in the UK?