Should we 'legalise illegal drugs'? - Poll.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Restless

Eric has the insight of living over the pond where the drug situation is far far worse than it is here.

You have a good point. How many would quit if they was not illegal? A lot of people might do it for that thrill. Having to "score" drugs from dealers can be a very scary experience for somebody in their youth that is not in the same mindset. This is one of the reasons that sometimes makes me lean towards legalisation

Dear Restless -without seeming patronising -I have 2 sons in their early 20's so I have an idea what it's like for you "youngsters" - life is short in some terms, yet in other moments it's not that easy. Learn to appreciate what you have timewise and healthwise. I wish you and my boys 100 years -but lets' be honest it's not that likely, unfortunately...apologise for posting having said I'd leave it there with these threads...

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Restless

Eric has the insight of living over the pond where the drug situation is far far worse than it is here.

You have a good point. How many would quit if they was not illegal? A lot of people might do it for that thrill. Having to "score" drugs from dealers can be a very scary experience for somebody in their youth that is not in the same mindset. This is one of the reasons that sometimes makes me lean towards legalisation

It's all relative.

The use of recreational drugs here has gone through the roof here, over the last thirty years ago. Both locally, and nationally.

In the past there'd usually be one dealer supplying a few neighbouring towns. Nowadays you can score within minutes, after one quick text on your mobile. Easier and faster than getting a cab, and sometimes cheaper.

It could be said this increased usage as happened at the same time that there's been less and less criminal prosecutions, for anything other than supplying drugs.

Smoke a joint in public, and if you're really unlucky, you might meet a plod, who'll make you extinguish it.

I personally have friends who take every drug going. None of them have ever been done for personal possession. When was the last time you read in the local press of anyone who's been prosecuted for possession of an illegal drug? Yet the number of people using drugs locally has increased a thousand fold in the last few decades.

Coincidence, that the number of users has increased so dramatically, a few of whose lives will end miserably because of drugs, whilst at the same time there's been a marked 'turn a blind eye' policy regarding the use of recreational drugs for personal use?

As stated earlier, in my opinion, I think not.

My opinions are arrived at through numerous interactions with drugs taken as recreation. Some of which details I've already given in this thread, others I haven't.

No way are my opinions arrived at from a position of naivety.

Trust me, that's really very far from the case. From being a young clubber, then an art student, and then working in the fashion business for so long, drugs were very much part of the worlds I lived in.

When it comes to the small minority on here, the nice ol' pot smoking pro-legalise supporters, versus myself, in deciding who knows more about the myriad of drugs available, from glue through to the latest must have designer drug for clubbers, and all their pros and cons.

If I was a betting man, you can bet your sweet bippy that my money would definitely be on myself knowing more about recreational drugs per se.

Much more so than ol' Grandpa Walton, rocking away on his verandah, toking away on a big fat spliff, or Alice Nutter, puffing away in her hermetically sealed bubble.

No offence by the way.

Any illustrative similarity to any living forum member is purely coincidental.

Besides, Eric's much more like John Boy.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

Besides, Eric's much more like John Boy.

Allow me to disagree this once -he's definitely Jim-Bob!!!!!!

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

Much more so than ol' Grandpa Walton, rocking away on his verandah, toking away on a big fat spliff, or Alice Nutter, puffing away in her hermetically sealed bubble.

No offence by the way.

Any illustrative similarity to any living forum member is purely coincidental.

Old Zeb is turning in his tomb tonight...

Time to switch out the lights...
Night Grandpa...

Night John-Boy

Night Mary-Ellen...

xx

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Dear Restless -without seeming patronising -I have 2 sons in their early 20's so I have an idea what it's like for you "youngsters" - life is short in some terms, yet in other moments it's not that easy. Learn to appreciate what you have timewise and healthwise. I wish you and my boys 100 years -but lets' be honest it's not that likely, unfortunately...apologise for posting having said I'd leave it there with these threads...

I worry too.

Drugs are much more readily available to young people now, than at any other time in the past.

Fact.

Seen with my own eyes in Hyndburn, and elsewhere.

Most young dope smokers would be genuinely shocked if someone told them that smoking weed is actually a criminal offence. Mainly because the law more or less turns a blind eye to possession nowadays.

Decriminalisation would give the green light that recreational drugs are harmless.

For most they are.

For a minority they'll lead to a life of misery, and for some death.

It's a risk.

You never know when you take your first drug socially whether you'll have a great time, and little or no side effects, or your personality will mean you'll soon become addicted, and hooked on the effects, needing stronger and stronger drugs to recreate that initial euphoria.

I live in the real world, and it's a world where drug usage is very widespread.

I have young relatives about to enter that world.

I'll do everything in my power to get them to weigh up the risks that taking drugs as a recreation bring.

I hope they survive that world.

Most of my friends have.

Some didn't.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Old Zeb is turning in his tomb tonight...

Time to switch out the lights...

Night Grandpa...

Night John-Boy

Night Mary-Ellen...

xx

We know who you'd be.

The much put upon peacemaker of the household.

'G'night Mamma.' x

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

I worry too.

Drugs are much more readily available to young people now, than at any other time in the past.

Fact.

Seen with my own eyes in Hyndburn, and elsewhere.

Most young dope smokers would be genuinely shocked if someone told them that smoking weed is actually a criminal offence. Mainly because the law more or less turns a blind eye to possession nowadays.

Did you call the Police when you witnessed these offences?..I mean you are well known to have a zero tolerance when it comes to crime.

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by garinda

We know who you'd be.

The much put upon peacemaker of the household.

'G'night Mamma.' x

How right you are.

The sun will always shine on you, favourite son.

G'night. Mamma xx

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Did you call the Police when you witnessed these offences?..I mean you are well known to have a zero tolerance when it comes to crime.

Stop being such a tight-arse Mancie - you live in London -right , not Hyndburn...

Thought you were part of the progressive, open-minded group of Acyweb...

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Did you call the Police when you witnessed these offences?..I mean you are well known to have a zero tolerance when it comes to crime.

Yes, I have done.

Will do again, when I see scum dealers supplying young teens, from parked cars.

Do I call plod every time I've seen someone have a cheeky line in the bogs on a night out?

Nah, Vern.

Like havin' a laugh me, when I go out.

Not spending all night on the blower.

Especially as the law now couldn't give a hoot who's doing what to themselves narcotically, as long as they aren't dealing.

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Stop being such a tight-arse Mancie - you live in London -right , not Hyndburn...

Thought you were part of the progressive, open-minded group of Acyweb...

Yeah i am pretty much open minded..but I was asking a question of someone who has said they would be prepared to shoot his own children for theft...have you read some of the past posts this idiot has written?...such as chopping hands off ..shooting children?.. he's a nutter

[garinda]

Originally Posted by mobertol

Stop being such a tight-arse Mancie - you live in London -right , not Hyndburn...

Thought you were part of the progressive, open-minded group of Acyweb...

I've reported scum dealers in both places.

I ain't fussy, geographically.

Nor do I give a flying fox, if in the eyes of some, that makes me a 'grass', in the lootin', tootin', criminal supportin' underworld, where they inhabit.

I'll sleep.

Despite the alarms going off.

As people go out on the rob, to fund their habit.

It's a hard knock life...

[Mancie]

Originally Posted by garinda

I've reported scum dealers in both places.

I ain't fussy, geographically.

Nor do I give a flying fox, if in the eyes of some, that makes me a 'grass', in the lootin', tootin', criminal supportin' underworld, where they inhabit.

I'll sleep.

Despite the alarms going off.

As people go out on the rob, to fund their habit.

It's a hard knock life...

No.. I did not ask about the dealers..I asked if you had reported to the police your "friends" who have as you say broken the law by taking illegal drugs?..

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Mancie

Yeah i am pretty much open minded..but I was asking a question of someone who has said they would be prepared to shoot his own children for theft...have you read some of the past posts this idiot has written?...such as chopping hands off ..shooting children?.. he's a nutter

What an imagination -as far as I remember since I know Garinda his inclinations mean he is a "non-breeder" -his own words, so I'm sure I cause him no offence. I think he is as far removed from Sharia law as you can get
don't see any nutters on his horzion -sorry! Though as to idiots...

I am still on the run myself, though Interpol occasionally knocks on the door ...I do still look so innocent -thank goodness!

Mary Poppins Li'l sister

[mobertol]

Originally Posted by Mancie

...have you read some of the past posts this idiot has written?...

When someone starts bandying about words like "Idiot" I always feel it's time they take stock personally -no offence intended , of course, but then if I'd stayed in the UK I was destined for the diplomatic services...