Should we 'legalise illegal drugs'? - Poll.

[Less]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

Do you read everything and if so how do you find the time?

No I don't read everything, but if I wish to post in a thread, I do, (no matter how long it is) read it all before putting my foot in it (then I go ahead and put my foot in it, but at least then it's my mistake, I can't blame it on ignorance).


The time I find by allowing you to work for me you superior sod.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

I really wish I had that much leisure time but, alas, work is a tyrant that takes up too much of my time.

Well maybe its better to keep your gob firmly shut than continually shooting yourself in the foot, or is ignorance still bliss

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

I really wish I had that much leisure time but, alas, work is a tyrant that takes up too much of my time.

You could always think of a change of career.

I'll happily retire my position as the Accy Web archivist, if there's a suitably qualified applicant, able to take my place.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by garinda

You could always think of a change of career.

I'll happily retire my position as the Accy Web archivist, if there's a suitably qualified applicant, able to take my place.

Please include a S.A.E.

We do always acknowledge rejected applications, if there's recent evidence of poor research methodology.

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by Less

No I don't read everything, but if I wish to post in a thread, I do, (no matter how long it is) read it all before putting my foot in it (then I go ahead and put my foot in it, but at least then it's my mistake, I can't blame it on ignorance).


The time I find by allowing you to work for me you superior sod.

So when you have "read it all" I assume that when you make a comment it is based on remembering all 120 pages of contributions that have gone before. Or is it that you indeed only really respond in the way that you have above. You have obviously been on this forum for a long time, Less, a fact that you never fail to point out, but you do seem to take great joy in shooting people down (or at least attempting to do so) without putting too much meat on the bones of your argument.
By the way, your last comment above is itself a statement of superiority and of course untrue, I don't, as far as I am aware , work for you (unless you are unemployed, which then I suppose I do in a round about sort of way).

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by garinda

You could always think of a change of career.

I'll happily retire my position as the Accy Web archivist, if there's a suitably qualified applicant, able to take my place.

Does it pay well?

[churchfcrules]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

So when you have "read it all" I assume that when you make a comment it is based on remembering all 120 pages of contributions that have gone before. Or is it that you indeed only really respond in the way that you have above. You have obviously been on this forum for a long time, Less, a fact that you never fail to point out, but you do seem to take great joy in shooting people down (or at least attempting to do so) without putting too much meat on the bones of your argument.
By the way, your last comment above is itself a statement of superiority and of course untrue, I don't, as far as I am aware , work for you (unless you are unemployed, which then I suppose I do in a round about sort of way).

viva la revolution!

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by jaysay

Well maybe its better to keep your gob firmly shut than continually shooting yourself in the foot, or is ignorance still bliss

Perhaps you would care to point out exactly where I have "shot myself in the foot"? I do not speak from an ignorance of drugs at all. What does surprise me is that people make assumptions about others without knowing anything about their background or what they do. In the short time I have been a member of this forum I have been amazed at how often some people make comments about things they don't fully understand, but the idea of a forum is to promote debate, however ill-informed their comments might be.
At least I try to make an attempt at debate as opposed to simply putting down what others say without making a contribution to the actual debate itself.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

Does it pay well?

Skanky.

Paper blunts.

You have to have a calling, and do it for love.

[churchfcrules]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

Perhaps you would care to point out exactly where I have "shot myself in the foot"? I do not speak from an ignorance of drugs at all. What does surprise me is that people make assumptions about others without knowing anything about their background or what they do. In the short time I have been a member of this forum I have been amazed at how often some people make comments about things they don't fully understand, but the idea of a forum is to promote debate, however ill-informed their comments might be.
At least I try to make an attempt at debate as opposed to simply putting down what others say without making a contribution to the actual debate itself.

here here!, although i fear me applauding your sentiment, may be to your detriment mon ami!

but can't give karma again! have to dish it again first

[garinda]

Originally Posted by churchfcrules

viva la revolution!

That's what the many trolls who've visted here over the years usually cry.

Shortly before disappearing, never to be seen again.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

What does surprise me is that people make assumptions about others without knowing anything about their background or what they do.

You mean like the assumption that drug addicts who fund their habit through crime, would be involved in criminal activity regardless?

[Houseboy]

Originally Posted by garinda

You mean like the assumption that drug addicts who fund their habit through crime, would be involved in criminal activity regardless?

I didn't say (do I really need to keep repeating this) that it never happens, it does, I am saying that the numbers that do are overstated to try to make a point (taking drugs is bad). If you have issue with my argument let me further point out (again) that the original quote came form the ex-chief constable of Middlesbrough, himself an avid anti-drugs believer.
Also, Garinda, I never got round to discussing your point yesterday about prostitution and drugs (I was urgently called away and couldn't finish the post).
There are women of all ages who go into prostitution because of drugs, that is an undeniable fact and all the more sad for it, but prostitution has been around for thousands of years without the help of drug use, as they say, it is the oldest profession in the world.
Let me point out a few facts:

• Sociological studies have found that most prostitutes are not drug addicts - they go into it for a whole number of reasons.
• Most female drug addicts do not become prostitutes (I have known very many female drug users and, without exception, not one has turned to prostitution).
• Some women (contrary to popular belief) actually don't mind being "on the game", it is seen as easy money from hapless punters who can't get laid in any other way, in fact many people believe that, if it weren't for prostitution the instance of rape would increase dramatically.
• Some prostitutes have (see my original post about criminals and drugs) have become drug addict after being prostitutes.
• Prostitution was at it's highest in the this country in Victorian times when families were so skint that the wife would be forced into prostitution to help supplement her husbands poor income.

Drug use is a lifestyle choice and, although I would not advocate it, should be left to the individual to decide if it is for them. As for the crime connection, and undoubtedly there is one, however tenuous, we have laws to punish those who chose to participate in any anti-social or criminal behaviour without punishing those who simply want to get on with their own lives, with no interference from those who would force their own morals onto others.

[garinda]

Most people, not just women, who fund a drug addiction through selling themselves, usually start out on that pitiful journey when they're still young and stupid, and unable to fully assess the risks involved.


It's rare for those in middle age, to suddenly want to try illegal recreational drugs for the very first time.

[garinda]

Originally Posted by Houseboy

I didn't say (do I really need to keep repeating this) that it never happens, it does, I am saying that the numbers that do are overstated to try to make a point (taking drugs is bad). If you have issue with my argument let me further point out (again) that the original quote came form the ex-chief constable of Middlesbrough, himself an avid anti-drugs believer.
Also, Garinda, I never got round to discussing your point yesterday about prostitution and drugs (I was urgently called away and couldn't finish the post).
There are women of all ages who go into prostitution because of drugs, that is an undeniable fact and all the more sad for it, but prostitution has been around for thousands of years without the help of drug use, as they say, it is the oldest profession in the world.
Let me point out a few facts:

• Sociological studies have found that most prostitutes are not drug addicts - they go into it for a whole number of reasons.
• Most female drug addicts do not become prostitutes (I have known very many female drug users and, without exception, not one has turned to prostitution).
• Some women (contrary to popular belief) actually don't mind being "on the game", it is seen as easy money from hapless punters who can't get laid in any other way, in fact many people believe that, if it weren't for prostitution the instance of rape would increase dramatically.
• Some prostitutes have (see my original post about criminals and drugs) have become drug addict after being prostitutes.
• Prostitution was at it's highest in the this country in Victorian times when families were so skint that the wife would be forced into prostitution to help supplement her husbands poor income.

Drug use is a lifestyle choice and, although I would not advocate it, should be left to the individual to decide if it is for them. As for the crime connection, and undoubtedly there is one, however tenuous, we have laws to punish those who chose to participate in any anti-social or criminal behaviour without punishing those who simply want to get on with their own lives, with no interference from those who would force their own morals onto others.

Er....as stated already, many times.

I don't know anyone who doesn't have the choice to take whatever drug they like, right now...and as the law currently stands.