"Silly Cow" Poll

[g jones]

Originally Posted by cashman

then thats not just 1 lie,but 2, as those who heard it will testify.

Well said. 2 lies.

I don't care much for the silly cow bit. Unpleasant, but I wouldn't have reported it. The history of abuse from Clr B to Clr McC led up to this, as well as excessive abuse towards women on the Council.

I am a man and I receive about three quarters the abuse Clr McC receives amazingly. I understand her position and she was, on balance, right to make the complaint. If it costs a small amount to get councillors focused on the job at hand, then it's money well spent. Shame the voters were conned into putting these deceitful there in the first place.

I thank Katex and ClaytonEnder for telling the truth and being there.

The issue has been like this for the 6 years I have been on the Council. Constant lies. This is hidden from the people of Hyndburn. This event however demonstrates for me what has been happening, and AccyWeb members honesty has shown that (at least on this issue) that some of us strive for the truth, and some of us strive for naked power.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

This is nonsense. I reported him once only. He insisted at every public meeting that the bus station was staying on Peel Street. The bus operators then (and still do) refuse to speak to that man. He had/has a shop on Infant Street. He should have declared it and left the room.

The Standards Board Agreed and gave Britcliffe a severe warning. However the constitution of Hyndburn had been watered down and the advice from the SB to me was this could proceed no furthur as Mr Britcliffe had not broken one of his own rules.

Mr Britcliffe then ran to the papers and proclaimed he had been found innocent. That's not what the SBE had said and the report is still in my office. So I would be careful what you say JAYSAY. The truth has always hurt you and will continue to do so so long as you pander to petty party politics and personal political friendships rather than speak as an honest resident.

AND CONTRARY to your jump in with two feet views. We do not discuss, organise, have a group decision on personal matters like this. Cllr McCormack (ring her to check if you doubt) made her own decision and no-one else got involved. So to suggest it was the Labour Party as a Group decision is a made up lie and one phone call would have cleared your mind on that.

The only answer I would have expected from a very poor narcissistic Labour Politician

[Neil]

Originally Posted by g jones

So to suggest it was the Labour Party as a Group decision is a made up lie and one phone call would have cleared your mind on that.

Get a grip man, do you really think we are stupid enough to believe that she did not check with you first?

[g jones]

BTW i voted NO, he should not resign. I don;t like Lies but there should be better ways to deal with this. After all the voters voted his crackpot brigade in and they have the right to serve no matter how bitter i feel about there conduct.

[g jones]

Originally Posted by jaysay

The only answer I would have expected from a very poor narcissistic Labour Politician

Just like your best mate Britcliffe, has to resort to personal attacks!!!! Enough said.

[Gayle]

Originally Posted by g jones

This is nonsense. I reported him once only.

Possibly true but members of the Labour party have reported him quite a few times over the last few years.

Originally Posted by g jones

AND CONTRARY to your jump in with two feet views. We do not discuss, organise, have a group decision on personal matters like this. Cllr McCormack (ring her to check if you doubt) made her own decision and no-one else got involved. So to suggest it was the Labour Party as a Group decision is a made up lie and one phone call would have cleared your mind on that.

Surely as leader of the Labour Group in Hyndburn you should know if your own party members are going to the standards board or are they doing it without your approval or without your knowledge?

[lindsay ormerod]

I voted yes, purely because he is untrustworthy, well, even more so than before !

[WillowTheWhisp]

That's why I'm for 'yes' - and the fact that he hasn't even got the courage to stand by his own convictions.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

Just like your best mate Britcliffe, has to resort to personal attacks!!!! Enough said.

Unfortunatly Graham, I haven't seen Peter since May Day last year, and I have spoken to him three times, none of which were about politics, but our mutual love of Blackburn Rovers, now if you had said another councillor was my best mate it may have been nearer the mark

[g jones]

Originally Posted by Neil

Get a grip man, do you really think we are stupid enough to believe that she did not check with you first?

I said a Group decision.

When you have an issue, you seek advice. I know she asked me. I thought on balance because of the abuse she had received that it would highlight the issue. I don't think she asked many others in the group and it was never discussed at Labour Group. We have better and more important things to talk about. It was and is a personal issue.

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

BTW i voted NO, he should not resign. I don;t like Lies but there should be better ways to deal with this. After all the voters voted his crackpot brigade in and they have the right to serve no matter how bitter i feel about there conduct.

You have voted no, so whats all the fuse about infact this poll was daft in the first place, because the only poll that matters is the one which takes place in May every year, not on an internet web site, infact I will not even be votting this year

[jaysay]

Originally Posted by g jones

I said a Group decision.

When you have an issue, you seek advice. I know she asked me. I thought on balance because of the abuse she had received that it would highlight the issue. I don't think she asked many others in the group and it was never discussed at Labour Group. We have better and more important things to talk about. It was and is a personal issue.

In that case Graham, if it was a personal issue why was it YOU who introduced it onto this web site, political double speak me thinks

[g jones]

Originally Posted by jaysay

You have voted no, so whats all the fuse about infact this poll was daft in the first place, because the only poll that matters is the one which takes place in May every year, not on an internet web site, infact I will not even be votting this year

And that is because;
a) You don't want to vote, you've have no affinity to any party or politics. Your a man of the people, an innocent truthsayer OR,
b) There are no elections in your Ward, Immanuel?

[g jones]

Originally Posted by jaysay

In that case Graham, if it was a personal issue why was it YOU who introduced it onto this web site, political double speak me thinks

Because Clr B told lies. Read the initial post. You seem to only post party political views and never check any facts. You attack all progressives, such as Gayle. It's your job. When PB drops the letter off to the Ob via your house, you just sign it. You can recognise Peter's words, peters insider argument, a mile off. I am fed up of pandering to people who think they are the political elite and the rest of us should just shut up and play fairy.

Your man has been caught with his pants down to use an old fashioned saying, and he should own up!

[Eric]

Originally Posted by g jones

Because Clr B told lies. Read the initial post. You seem to only post party political views and never check any facts. You attack all progressives, such as Gayle. It's your job. When PB drops the letter off to the Ob via your house, you just sign it. You can recognise Peter's words, peters insider argument, a mile off. I am fed up of pandering to people who think they are the political elite and the rest of us should just shut up and play fairy.

Your man has been caught with his pants down to use an old fashioned saying, and he should own up!

I don't think it has anything to do with his pants ... he's not Bill Clinton, (the man who convinced America that a blow job is not sex). But politicians are noted for blurting out things in debate. Our late PM, Pierre Trudeau, once told a member of the opposition to eff off in the House of Commons. Canadians thought this was ok, even funny. Unfortunately, he denied saying it, claiming that what came out of his mouth was "fuddle duddle." I still have a fuddle duddle coffee mug.

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